Human Rights & "Resurrection" Of The Reagan-Years!

[Mr. Shaman]

Yeah....Ol' ReRon was quite the badass-cowboy, when it came to women, children, Priests & nuns. ​

"Rights groups asked a Spanish court on Thursday to indict a former president of El Salvador and 14 ex-officials over the massacre of six Jesuit priests and two others during the Central American country's 1980-92 civil war.

The two groups _ the Spanish Association for Human Rights and California's Center for Justice and Accountability _ filed the lawsuit accusing former Salvadoran President Alfredo Cristiani Burkard of covering up the 1989 killing of the Jesuits, their housekeeper and her teenage daughter.

The killings occurred during the country's civil war between leftist rebels and a U.S.-backed right-wing government.

On Nov. 16, 1989, members of an army battalion with orders to kill University of Central America rector Ignacio Ellacuria massacred the Spanish-born Jesuit, five other Jesuits, the housekeeper and her daughter.

The massacre sparked international outrage and tarnished the image of U.S. anti-Communism efforts after it was found that some soldiers involved had received training at the former School of the Americas at Fort Benning in Georgia."

 

[BigRob]

Yeah....Ol' ReRon was quite the badass-cowboy, when it came to women, children, Priests & nuns.

Comparing Cold War logic to present day.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Comparing Cold War logic to present day.

Ah, yes.....I guess I forgot about BUSHCO's new Statute Of Limitations.

 

[BigRob]

Ah, yes.....I guess I forgot about BUSHCO's new Statute Of Limitations.

I am going to go ahead and say that the strategic interests of the United States and our hegemony are more important than the lives of eight people.

Now I have no doubt that you will make a comment on this, but the majority of people everywhere agrees with me. And it is comparing Cold War logic to today. This civil war started in 1980, it should be clear why we automatically backed the government that was promoting pro-western interests at that time.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I am going to go ahead and say that the strategic interests of the United States and our hegemony are more important than the lives of eight people.

Well.....seeing-as-how 3,000 is that magic-number that entitles a country to strike-out (preemptively) at whatever country it chooses....we'd best not try any(more) nation-building, in Central America!!!

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So, tell me.....what petty/sophomoric-excuse do you have, for deleting my Spitzer-post?​

 

[BigRob]

Well.....seeing-as-how 3,000 is that magic-number that entitles a country to strike-out (preemptively) at whatever country it chooses....we'd best not try any(more) nation-building, in Central America!!!

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We did not try nation building, we simply supported a pro-Western government and turned a blind eye to its domestic policies.

So, tell me.....what petty/sophomoric-excuse do you have, for deleting my Spitzer-post?

I don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

We did not try nation building, we simply supported a pro-Western government and turned a blind eye to its domestic policies.

Yeah....you "conservatives" always were big-fans of "taking-on" people too small (or, weak) to fight-back....which would pretty-much explain the (WMD-free) Iraq War.

So, tell me.....what petty/sophomoric-excuse do you have, for deleting my Spitzer-post?

I don't know what you are talking about.

B.S.!!!!!

You don't even lie well.

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[BigRob]

Yeah....you "conservatives" always were big-fans of "taking-on" people too small (or, weak) to fight-back....which would pretty-much explain the (WMD-free) Iraq War.

Well the Cold War was carried out over a span of 50 years (give or take) and presided over by numerous Presidents who were both Democrat and Republican. It was not a "conservative" issues that we backed governments around the world who were anti-Russia and pro-Western...

B.S.!!!!!

You don't even lie well.

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Your spitzer thread is in the Business and Economics forum. I assume that is the one you are talking about. No one deleted anything. Perhaps you simply forgot the thread you posted it on?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Well the Cold War was carried out over a span of 50 years (give or take) and presided over by numerous Presidents who were both Democrat and Republican. It was not a "conservative" issues that we backed governments around the world who were anti-Russia and pro-Western...

The Cold War, huh?

What was our excuse, before that?

You "conservatives" (continually) fall-back on your (faux) ideology-excuses, but...it's always been about bu$ine$$....and, minimizing labor-issues!

"In 1944, the people of Guatemala overthrew the right-wing dictator then in power, Jorge Ubico. Guatemala held its first true elections in history. They elected Dr. Juan Jose Arevalo Bermej to the presidency. A new constitution was drawn up, based on the U.S. Constitution. Arevalo was a socialist and an educator who built over 6,000 schools in Guatemala and made great progress in education and health care.

At this time in Guatemala, just 2.2 percent of the population owned over 70 percent of the country's land. Only 10 percent of the land was available for 90 percent of the population, most of whom were Indians. Most of the land held by the large landowners was unused. Arevalo was succeeded in another free election by Jacobo Arbenz who continued the reform process begun under Arevalo. Arbenz proposed to redistribute some of the unused land and make it available for the 90 percent to farm. Here is where the problem arose: United Fruit was one of the big holders of unused land in Guatemala. The pressure mounted against UFCO and finally the company complained to the many friends it had within the U.S. government including President Eisenhower and Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, saying that Guatemala had turned communist."

 

[Libsmasher]

Lib appeasers have ALWAYS been against resistance to communists, human rights violations or not. The only commie they ever saw that they didn't like is - none of them. And why not? They are ideological cousins.

 

[BigRob]

The Cold War, huh?

What was our excuse, before that?

You "conservatives" (continually) fall-back on your (faux) ideology-excuses, but...it's always been about bu$ine$$....and, minimizing labor-issues!

We have always intervened for our own interests. Before the Cold War it was no exception. During the Cold War we supported government in our interests, regardless of human rights issues. It was not until after the Cold War that we have gotten on a human rights kick and decided that human rights was a legitimate reason to intervene anywhere.

So yes, you are comparing the idea that the US always intervenes in its own interests, to the relatively new idea that humanitarian interests make for a valid reason for intervention. Thus, you are comparing Cold War logic (and from before) to a new post Cold War logic of a more humanitarian approach.

 

[laughinatreps]

So, tell me.....what petty/sophomoric-excuse do you have, for deleting my Spitzer-post?[/CENTER]

You must have insulted someone.....that seems to be the blanket excuse..lolol

 

[BigRob]

You must have insulted someone.....that seems to be the blanket excuse..lolol

His post was never deleted, he simply forget what thread he posted it on.