You have stated that those who wish to repeal Obamacare, want the poor to die. This a blatantly foolish EMOTIONALISM...but it fits nicely with what the lib media and the D party are saying. You have been duped and don't know it.
Again you fail to comprehend what I said in favor of what you wanted me to say.
"Or do we just let the poor die off as they used to do in Roman times, or Greek times? Perhaps we should just build plots outside of town, and place the sick there to die. That's what they do with babes who survive abortions."
Obamacare will force the working poor to pay for HC coverage. It will force employers of low wage operations to fire workers...thus hurting the working poor. That is just for starters...and we all know (you excluded) that the unintended consequences of liberalism are ALWAYS heinous...so it likely will cause much greater harm to the poor. FORCE!....is it not wonderful how our government uses FORCE against its citizens???
Employers are being exempted from the rules at all levels, and the poor are going to be subsidized for their payments based on their income. Having said that, employers have been eliminating the healthcare benefit from their packages for decades. At the time of Reagan over 80% of employers provided heathcare as a benefit to employment. Now the number is down to 18%, and of those most do not cover the entire family, or have co-pays.
You claim Obamacare will hurt the wealthy through higher premiums. But, you fail to realize it will HURT ALL Americans including the middle class and working poor.
And you fail to give any logical reason as to why that should be.
You bitch about the failures of our social programs being caused by fraud...yet your beloved Obama and his party have done NOTHING to stop the fraud. When will you realize they are party to the fraud?
If you were to do a reality check you would find that Obama has actually prosecuted more of these fraud cases then Bush did. Of course, the right wing will NEVER mention that:
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-sty...ord-medicare-fraud-recovery-article-1.1286388
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/02/13/attacking-medicare-fraud-saves-billions-year-row.html
The Feds recovered $4.2 billion of taxpayers’ money last year from legal proceedings, settlements and penalties. In 2011, joint efforts to attack Medicare fraud resulted in a record of $4.1 billion dollars. That is compared to the $2.86 billion recovered in 2010 before Obama’s policies to attack Medicare Fraud existed.
In May 2012, Medicare Strike Force teams charged 107 people, including licensed health care professionals in seven cities, who were allegedly involved in schemes involving over $452 million in false billing.
In 2011, the same teams charged 115 people, including health care professionals, companies and executives for suspected participation in Medicare fraud schemes that involved over $240 million in false billing. In another case, 91 suspects were charged for their alleged involvement in a Medicare fraud scheme that involved $290 million + in false billings.
America existed for decades without your beloved socialist programs and did very well. It can again.
Sorry, but you fail again. I support NO socialist programs, just the truth of the issue. You ignore truth based on your own hatred for Obama, and government. The greater threat to the country is corporatism, a form of socialism that creates de-facto monopolies in virtually every industry from trucking, to farming, to oil, to whatever. When we had the resemblance of a people controlled Republic things did go well. However, when the church's, the local community, the people, acquiesced their power to the government then things began to fall apart.
Dog above mentions Christ speaking fo how the people should care for others, not the government. How is that accomplished when the people have little to no concern about the teachings of Christ? Even the church's have become social gathering places, not places of worship. Pastors are now as greedy as any CEO of a corporation as those such as Joel Osteen, or Pat Robertson, consistently prove. People are more apt to get help in a bar then in a church.
The ONLY way that America can once again become great is if it returns to its roots. And all evidence shows that will not happen. Two articles you should look up, an dread. One was titled "Employment Gap Between Rich and Poor Widest On Record", another is "Americans Believe They Are Low Income".
Then there is this one:
http://www.theatlantic.com/national...at-again-we-need-to-leave-the-country/259653/
So the American people think our democracy doesn't work. But there are also many objective signs that it's failing. One is that Americans don't vote as much as citizens of most other countries, including developing countries. In 2010, only 37.5 percent voted in Congressional elections. There are signs that young people are voting less than they used to. Why? As Rock the Vote found in a 2010 poll, it is very simple: Because they think it doesn't matter who wins, that no real change is possible. They think the power of special interests is simply too great. And they are right.
One of the strongest indications of American democratic dysfunction is pervasive and expanding poverty. It is not just its existence in the richest country on earth that is shameful, but its utter absence from political discourse. Most of the poor don't vote; they have largely given up hope. And what national politician talks about poverty? Can you name any?
America is moving toward the kind of bifurcated society we used to deride in banana republics--rich getting richer in gated communities, while the poor grow poorer, barely seen in segregated urban ghettos and hidden rural decay. Over 20 million Americans live in extreme poverty. One in 50 Americans' only income is food stamps. Add the poor and the near-poor--that is under $44K for a family of four--and you have more than 100 million people.
The richest country in the world now has the highest rate of child poverty in the developed world. The U.S. has gone from being relatively egalitarian to one of the most unequal countries in the world.
And mobility from the poor to the middle class is not as open to anyone of talent and ambition as it once was; demographers and sociologists all agree on this. Americans now have less upward mobility--and those born privileged have less downward mobility--than in many of the formerly aristocratic countries our ancestors fled from.