Govt schools still turning out garbage

[Iftikhar]

I recall reading somewhere that a lot of American kids are coming to the UK as they get a better education here than in the States. The biggest fear in America is that the school systems are "dumbing down" to keep pass rates high (just like in the UK state sector schools).

Private schools in the UK are doing very well out of Americans at the moment and I think that some of your universities are opening up campuses here too!

British society must learn to respect and tolerate those who are different. God has created diverse human beings to live in this tiny global village of one family. Creation by its very nature is diverse with different species, different communities, different cultures and languages. These differences represent the beauty and wonder but diversity is sometimes not fully appreciated, resulting in all sorts of clashes. The British society and Establishment must learn to respect and accommodate others, as if in a family. A report by the Institute for Community Cohesion found that native parents were deserting some schools after finding their children outnumbered by pupils from ethnic minorities. Schools in parts of England are becoming increasingly segregated. The study focused on 13 local authorities. Many of the schools and colleges are segregated and this was generally worsening over recent years. This is RACISM because British society is the home of institutional racism. A study by Bristol University reveals that a high level of racial segregation in Oldham schools and tension between communities resulted in recent riots in 2001. The solution is that those schools where Muslim children are majority may be designated as Muslim community schools. The native parents do not want their children to be educated along with migrant children. As soon as they find that the number of other children is on the increase, they remove their children to those schools where native children are in majority.
Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools, deemed to be "sink schools"? You better teach your children in your own schools and let migrant communities teach their children according to their needs and demands. British Establishment and society should concentrate on the evils of their own society and stop trying to change the way of life of Muslims. Muslim community does not want to integrate with the British society, indulging in incivility, anti-social behaviour, drug and knife culture, binge drinking, teenage pregnancies and abortion. In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a "school hijacker" by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper. This clearly shows that the British media does not believe in choice and diversity in the field of education and has no respect for those who are different. Muslim schools, in spite of meagre resources, have excelled to a further extent this year, with couple of schools achieving 100% A-C grades for five or more GCSEs. They beat well resourced state and independent schools in Birmingham and Hackney. Muslim schools are doing better because a majority of the teachers are Muslim. The pupils are not exposed to the pressures of racism, multiculturalism and bullying. According to a recent report, Muslim schools performed best overall, although they constitute only a fraction of the country's 7000 schools. Muslim schools do well because of their Islamic ethos and a focus on traditional discipline and teaching methods. They teach children what is right and what is wrong, because young children need structured guidance.
It is a crime against humanity to send Muslim children to non-Muslim schools with non-Muslim teachers. Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. Muslim children must develop their cultural, spiritual and linguistic identities, before they are exposed to out side world, otherwise, they would be lost in the western jungle.
You better teach your children in your own schools and let migrant communities teach their children according to their needs and demands. British Establishment and society should concentrate on the evils of their own society and stop trying to change the way of life of Muslims. Muslim community does not want to integrate with the British society, indulging in incivility, anti-social behaviour, drug and knife culture, binge drinking, teenage pregnancies and abortion. Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools deemed to be "sink schools"? In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a "school hijacker" by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper in east London. This clearly shows that the British media does not believe in choice and diversity in the field of education and has no respect for those who are different. Muslim schools, in spite of meagre resources, have excelled to a further extent this year, with couple of schools achieving 100% A-C grades for five or more GCSEs. They beat well resourced state and independent schools in Birmingham and Hackney. Muslim schools are doing better because a majority of the teachers are Muslim. The pupils are not exposed to the pressures of racism, multiculturalism and bullying.
There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

 

[dogtowner]

British society must learn to respect and tolerate those who are different. God has created diverse human beings to live in this tiny global village of one family. Creation by its very nature is diverse with different species, different communities, different cultures and languages. These differences represent the beauty and wonder but diversity is sometimes not fully appreciated, resulting in all sorts of clashes. The British society and Establishment must learn to respect and accommodate others, as if in a family. A report by the Institute for Community Cohesion found that native parents were deserting some schools after finding their children outnumbered by pupils from ethnic minorities. Schools in parts of England are becoming increasingly segregated. The study focused on 13 local authorities. Many of the schools and colleges are segregated and this was generally worsening over recent years. This is RACISM because British society is the home of institutional racism. A study by Bristol University reveals that a high level of racial segregation in Oldham schools and tension between communities resulted in recent riots in 2001. The solution is that those schools where Muslim children are majority may be designated as Muslim community schools. The native parents do not want their children to be educated along with migrant children. As soon as they find that the number of other children is on the increase, they remove their children to those schools where native children are in majority.
Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools, deemed to be "sink schools"? You better teach your children in your own schools and let migrant communities teach their children according to their needs and demands. British Establishment and society should concentrate on the evils of their own society and stop trying to change the way of life of Muslims. Muslim community does not want to integrate with the British society, indulging in incivility, anti-social behaviour, drug and knife culture, binge drinking, teenage pregnancies and abortion. In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a "school hijacker" by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper. This clearly shows that the British media does not believe in choice and diversity in the field of education and has no respect for those who are different. Muslim schools, in spite of meagre resources, have excelled to a further extent this year, with couple of schools achieving 100% A-C grades for five or more GCSEs. They beat well resourced state and independent schools in Birmingham and Hackney. Muslim schools are doing better because a majority of the teachers are Muslim. The pupils are not exposed to the pressures of racism, multiculturalism and bullying. According to a recent report, Muslim schools performed best overall, although they constitute only a fraction of the country's 7000 schools. Muslim schools do well because of their Islamic ethos and a focus on traditional discipline and teaching methods. They teach children what is right and what is wrong, because young children need structured guidance.
It is a crime against humanity to send Muslim children to non-Muslim schools with non-Muslim teachers. Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. Muslim children must develop their cultural, spiritual and linguistic identities, before they are exposed to out side world, otherwise, they would be lost in the western jungle.
You better teach your children in your own schools and let migrant communities teach their children according to their needs and demands. British Establishment and society should concentrate on the evils of their own society and stop trying to change the way of life of Muslims. Muslim community does not want to integrate with the British society, indulging in incivility, anti-social behaviour, drug and knife culture, binge drinking, teenage pregnancies and abortion. Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools deemed to be "sink schools"? In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a "school hijacker" by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper in east London. This clearly shows that the British media does not believe in choice and diversity in the field of education and has no respect for those who are different. Muslim schools, in spite of meagre resources, have excelled to a further extent this year, with couple of schools achieving 100% A-C grades for five or more GCSEs. They beat well resourced state and independent schools in Birmingham and Hackney. Muslim schools are doing better because a majority of the teachers are Muslim. The pupils are not exposed to the pressures of racism, multiculturalism and bullying.
There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

You are proposing for muslims exactly what you fault brits for.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I feel sorry for students that want to learn.

You've All Been Dumbed-Down From This Yourselves, So You Will Never Understand What's Wrong

Using "that" instead of who to refer to persons indicates that you share something with those you criticize. Students are treated as impersonal objects, so what naturally motivates them as human beings is not taken into consideration. I've been self-educated since I was 15; so, as far as education goes, I don't share anything with those whom I criticize.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

This proves throwing money at a problem does not solve it but that is what they want, More money. And they will get it and next year the scores will not be any better. But all the teachers and administration will have a raise.

Class-Biased Indentured Servitude

"Throwing money at" is not the problem, the problem is the fact that it is not thrown at the players. Imagine a pro team that spends its extra money on beautifying the stadium or giving raises to its office personnel instead of getting free agents or paying more to get its present players to not leave as free agents. Any country that pays students for their grades will dominate this century.

Those who have been dumbed down, but won't admit it, won't be able to follow this analogy, or they will claim for no good reason that it doesn't apply. Derek Jeter got almost a million dollars to put himself through baseball's equivalent of college education. Over above that and his salary for twenty years, the Yankees' profit was 200-300 million dollars.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Exactly. The parents are the first and most important teachers that the child will ever have. No amount of funding of schools can make up for poor parenting.

Evasion of Professional Responsibility

That criticism has been parroted for decades. People like the way it sounds, but it's irrelevant. It was invented by the top educational management, just as blaming the teachers' unions was (which also pleased the private-sector moguls who are secretly behind dumbed-down education). Instead of this mindless chant, it is the unrewarding structure of education that turns off students.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The generations that did the sowing are either dead or getting off free. I don't believe in the old and ridiculous practice of punishing people for the sins of their fathers and grandfathers etc...

Half-Truths Are for Half-Wits

The forbidden but necessary other side to that is that we shouldn't reward the sons for the successes of their fathers, either. Cut the richkids off at age 18. If we have to do it on our own, so must they. If they continue to get in our way, we must run them over.

This is relevant to education because those fatkittens should work their way through college instead of living off a fat allowance from their fatcat Daddies. Then we'll see that they are nothing without Daddy's Money and shouldn't be looked up to any more than those who cheat through Affirmative Action admissions are.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Closer to 6 hrs.
Parents doing their job will ensure teachers are willing and able to do their part.
I likeep to credit the kids if, after being made aware that doing their job is learning, achieve.
Of course teachers help, of course parents help but it's the kids that do it.

A Seed Doesn't Grow by Being Spit On

More socially acceptable nonsense from those "educated" to be mindless parrots. Imagine a coach demonstrating a layup and then telling his team, "Now go home and practice it. If your parents don't make sure you do, then it's all their fault that you don't become good players."

High IQs are the most disappointing products of parrot education. Their only positive reward is from how accurately they repeat what their teachers say. They are driven to desperately need that because the other students treat them like freaks and losers. This humiliation is by design, it's goal is to mold them into becoming meek Cash Cows for Corporate Cowboys. Another indication that Right Wing parasites control this "government" education.

 

[PLC1]

Evasion of Professional Responsibility

That criticism has been parroted for decades. People like the way it sounds, but it's irrelevant. It was invented by the top educational management, just as blaming the teachers' unions was (which also pleased the private-sector moguls who are secretly behind dumbed-down education). Instead of this mindless chant, it is the unrewarding structure of education that turns off students.

The reason it has been "parroted" for decades is that it happens to be true.

The best predictor of educational success is not the school, not the teachers, no, it's the parents' educational level.

Good readers are children whose parents read to them as children. Poor readers are children whose parents did not read to them.

The goals a student has or does not have for educational success comes from the parents, or does not come from the parents.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The reason it has been "parroted" for decades is that it happens to be true.

The best predictor of educational success is not the school, not the teachers, no, it's the parents' educational level.

Good readers are children whose parents read to them as children. Poor readers are children whose parents did not read to them.

The goals a student has or does not have for educational success comes from the parents, or does not come from the parents.

College Is Class-Biased Indentured Servitude

It's the parents' income level that is the determining factor of their children's future income level. All college means is parents buying their children a job. That puts inferior people in superior positions and has caused America's decadence.

You're just trying to push an elitist and unAmerican aristocracy, just like Aristotle was when he defined the best people as the educated, covering up the fact that only the patricians could afford education. It's basically the same way now; college is designed for students living off an allowance. The self-sacrificing class-climbers have to live like teenagers who are afraid to grow up.

Obviously, your education is a fraud if you claim that the children should be taught at home, which is no different from hiring a tutor. You evade my analogy that a coach never expects his players to be pre-coached by their parents. Pretending that your copycat criticism has been blocked from being acted on is a dishonest way to justify continuing to preach it.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Oh, come on, now. That is such a cop out. The kids are in school 8 hours a day. Shouldn't the people who are paid to educate them during those hours have at least some accountability? Parents can do their own teaching, and give plenty of encouragement, but kids still make their own choices too. It's not just the parents, and it's not all the parents.

Kids also get told constantly how they should all get a trophy even if they don't bother trying... that doesn't teach them to strive for excellence, but it's a lesson they will certainly learn in public schools.

"Prep" School Means PREPare for College, So College Is an Obsolete Aristocratic Institution

The fact that college graduates have a 6th Grader's knowledge of grammar, logic, and history proves that a diploma is a participation trophy. If we don't pay college students a salary, they're not worth anything. They have no right to the jobs they steal from smarter young adults who have too much self-respect to go to college, which is nothing but work without pay. If your plutocratic Masters tell you that isn't so, man up and tell them to send their own kids to college without an allowance.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

There used to be other species of the genus homo, but they're all extinct. Now, there is just one species of human. Race means, what again? Are we to make up a new classification beyond species?

No, humans are all one species. We just need to learn to act like it.

Not only one species, but one with very little genetic variation. We're all pretty much the same.

A Rational Explanation You Are Afraid to Debate

Multiculties deny the Bell Curve, which is so obviously true that even they must believe it and are only trying to humiliate the White people who do not belong to their decadent clique. The feralphile leaders are rich kids, who were told by their fathers that they were born with superior genes and have evolved into a separate race Born to Rule over all other White people.

All these New Age movements can be defined by the other side of the coin; you tolerate Blacks out of hatred for all the Whites who refuse to support your fake ideology. To take an example that sums up all this social destruction since the 60s, Hillary Clinton started out as a far-right Goldwater Girl and never changed in her attitude towards the majority. Like the Birchers, she too believes that democracy is mob rule. Her "deplorable" really means "not being born rich like I was" and nothing more, just like the Kochs' selfish sense of superiority.