Boehner ends talks with Obama on Debt Ceiling

[steveox]

Well its true. You cant negotiate with Obama try talk peace with this man

You wont get pass 1st base.

 

[Openmind]

Well its true. You cant negotiate with Obama try talk peace with this man

You wont get pass 1st base.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Going on a tangeant again?

 

[steveox]

You im taking about the fact is Obama is a democrat. and Democrats stick up with each other. Just like Scott Brown wont budge in for Democrats and Obama wont budge in for Republicans. Democrats walkout in wisconsin cause they cant get anywhere with Scott Brown. So why not just walkout until Obama is ready to negotiate with common sence.

 

[BigRob]

You im taking about the fact is Obama is a democrat. and Democrats stick up with each other. Just like Scott Brown wont budge in for Democrats and Obama wont budge in for Republicans. Democrats walkout in wisconsin cause they cant get anywhere with Scott Brown. So why not just walkout until Obama is ready to negotiate with common sence.

Steve, the Governor of Wisconsin is Scott Walker. Scott Brown is the Senator from Massachusetts.

 

[steveox]

Sorry Ok? But you know what im getting at.. The Bottom liner is Boehner should take a page out of Wisconsin Democrats playbook and just walkout and drive out of D.C. You see the rules are the same,,You cant vote or negotiate without the other party present. If one party votes and other one doesnt its illegal. In Wisconsin the Cops look for the lawmakers and force them to vote,,Bjut the cops cant control federal lawmakers asnd the FBI cant do anything about nether. So When republicans walkout and leave D.C then Democrats will have no choice but to cave in so they can get other bills passed.

 

[ProudLefty]

Sorry Ok? But you know what im getting at.. The Bottom liner is Boehner should take a page out of Wisconsin Democrats playbook and just walkout and drive out of D.C. You see the rules are the same,,You cant vote or negotiate without the other party present. If one party votes and other one doesnt its illegal. In Wisconsin the Cops look for the lawmakers and force them to vote,,Bjut the cops cant control federal lawmakers asnd the FBI cant do anything about nether. So When republicans walkout and leave D.C then Democrats will have no choice but to cave in so they can get other bills passed.

Gosh... what to write. Should I even bother? Does it make a difference? Facts just don't make any impression on the conclusions.

The cops didn't get the Wisconsin lawmakers and force them to vote.

The Republicans are in the majority in both Wisconsin and the House of Representatives. Republicans walking out of the House of Representatives changes nothing. If they want to vote something up or down, all they have to do is vote. Walking away does nothing.

No negotiating is happening as it is, so walking away doesn't stop negotiations, and staying doesn't start negotiations.

So far, the Republicans have asked for, and received "Their last and final demand" several times and have then refused Yes for an answer.


In other words, your facts are in error, your conclusions are faulty, and your understanding of what is happening does not reflect the reality.

 

[BigRob]

Gosh... what to write. Should I even bother? Does it make a difference? Facts just don't make any impression on the conclusions.

The cops didn't get the Wisconsin lawmakers and force them to vote.

Just to nitpick, the state police of Wisconsin couldn't bring back Dem legislators to vote because they left the state, thereby the police had no authority.

The Republicans are in the majority in both Wisconsin and the House of Representatives. Republicans walking out of the House of Representatives changes nothing. If they want to vote something up or down, all they have to do is vote. Walking away does nothing.

In terms of Wisconsin, to get technical, even though in control they didn't have the votes to reach quorum, but that is not really relevant here.

In terms of DC, it would make zero sense for Republicans to "walk out". That said, the House has voted on and already passed their budget, as well as a version of the bill to deal with the debt ceiling issue. Those bills are dead in the D controlled Senate.

No negotiating is happening as it is, so walking away doesn't stop negotiations, and staying doesn't start negotiations.

So far, the Republicans have asked for, and received "Their last and final demand" several times and have then refused Yes for an answer.


In other words, your facts are in error, your conclusions are faulty, and your understanding of what is happening does not reflect the reality.

If I was in the US House (as an R), I wouldn't do anything. I would say, "we already passed our budget and our bill that deals with the debt crisis, it is time for the Senate to act."