9/11 Was an Inside Job

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Scott -- this handful of websites does not reflect the overall attitude of the Corps. On the whole, we know our mission, we are proud of our successes in bringing freedom to an oppressed people, and we are proud to be defending our nation from those who want nothing more than to kill us, even at the cost of their own life.
 
Scott -- this handful of websites does not reflect the overall attitude of the Corps. On the whole, we know our mission, we are proud of our successes in bringing freedom to an oppressed people, and we are proud to be defending our nation from those who want nothing more than to kill us, even at the cost of their own life.


"To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace."
- George Washington

"War is cruelty. There's no use trying to refine it, the crueler it is the sooner it will be over."
- William Tecumseh Sherman

"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want."
- General William T. Sherman

"Si vis pacem, para bellum" ("Let him who desires peace prepare for war.")
- Flavius Vegetius

"There is a time for all things, a time to preach and a time to pray, but those times have passed away.
There is a time to fight, and that time has now come."
--Peter Muhlenberg

"We make war that we may live in peace."
- Aristotle

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't."
- General George S. Patton

"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died.
Rather we should thank God that such men lived."
- General George S. Patton

"No arsenal or no weapon in the arsenals of the world is so formidable
as the will and moral courage of free men and women."
- President Ronald Reagan

"If I win I can't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead."
- General George S. Patton

"Strength lies not in defense but in attack."
- Marquis de Acerba

"From time to time, the tree of liberty must be watered
with the blood of tyrants and patriots."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."
- Thomas Jefferson

"In war there is no substitute for victory."
- General Douglas MacArthur

"Part of the American dream is to live long and die young.
Only those Americans who are willing to die for their country are fit to live."
- General Douglas MacArthur

"There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others."
- Niccolò Machiavelli

"Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier."
- Samuel Johnson

"The purpose of all war is peace."
- Saint Augustine

"Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings - - give us that precious jewel, and you may take everything else.
Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately,
nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined."
- Patrick Henry

"Sometimes it is entirely appropriate to kill a fly with a sledge hammer."
- Major Holdridge

Those who have long enjoyed such privileges as we enjoy,
forget in time that men have died to win them."
- Franklin D. Roosevelt

"To contend for our own liberty, and to deny that blessing to others, involves an inconsistency not to be excused."
- John Jay

"For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so,
a well-organized and armed militia is their best security."
- Thomas Jefferson

"These are the times that try men’s souls.
The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis,
shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now,
deserves the love and thanks of man and woman."
- Thomas Paine

"Freedom! No word was ever spoken that held out greater hope,
demanded greater sacrifice, needed more to be nurtured,
blessed more the giver, cursed more its destroyer,
or came closer to being God's will on earth.
And I think that's worth fighting for.
-General Omar N. Bradley

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."
- Winston Churchill

"The issue is not war and peace, rather, how best to preserve our freedom."
- General Russell E. Dougherty

"The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave..."
- Patrick Henry

"War, if reason prevails, is waged to obtain a better peace than
that which existed prior to the hostilities."
- Bela K. Kiraly

"War can only be abolished by war, and in order to get rid of
the gun it is necessary to take up the gun."
- Mao Tse-Tung

"I do not believe in vile acquittals, phony appeasements, easy forgiveness.
Even less, in the exploitation or the blackmail of the word Peace.
When peace stands for surrender, fear, loss of dignity and freedom,
it is no longer peace. It is suicide."
- Oriana Fallaci

"I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country."
- Nathan Hale

"There can be no peace but that which is forced by the sword."
- Henry Halleck

"Once we have a war there is only one thing to do. It must be won.
For defeat brings worse things than any that can ever happen in war."
- Ernest Miller Hemmingway

"Polemos Pater Panton"
("War is the father of all things")
- Heraclitus

"We shall meanly lose or nobly save the last hope of earth."
- Abraham Lincoln

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the
animating contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your
counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your
chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!"
- Samuel Adams

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety,
is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made
and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
- John Stewart Mill

And one for the war protestors: "The morale of the soldier is the greatest single factor in war."
- Field Marshal Sir Bernard Law Montgomery
 
"War is a racket. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. "

General Smedley Butler
 
USMC the Almighty

You seem to be in denial. The government lies to the American people about why we intervene abroad.
You should start reading article from this site and find out the real reasons for our interventions abroad.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/

I know it's difficult for soldiers to admit they've spent their whole lives believing a lie and fighting for an unjust cause while thinking it was a just cause.
Smedley Butler was close enough to what was happening for a long enough time that he saw the truth. The same goes for Chris White.

They were both big enough to admit they'd spent part of their lives believing a lie.
 
The relationships that I've formed with freed Iraqis alone is enough to make me continuing fighting. The smiles I bring to their faces, from the toddlers to the elderly, tells me that it's a just cause worth fighting for.
I couldn't be prouder of what I fight for, what I've accomplished, and of being a Marine.

SEMPER FI
 
The relationships that I've formed with freed Iraqis alone is enough to make me continuing fighting. The smiles I bring to their faces, from the toddlers to the elderly, tells me that it's a just cause worth fighting for.
I couldn't be prouder of what I fight for, what I've accomplished, and of being a Marine.

SEMPER FI
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I'm wondering if you really are a Marine in Iraq now.
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article15266.htm

I'd like to get your opinion on these two videos.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3117338213439292490&pl=true
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=1130731388742388243

Also, what do you think of what Smedley Butler and Chris White said?
 
I'm wondering if you really are a Marine in Iraq now.

Why?

Do you not believe that I've formed any relationships with Iraqis, many of whom I keep in touch via e-mail (yes, we have given many of them internet, computers, cell phones, etc.)?

I personally don't have any pictures, but ones like these are not rare.

Why I love my job:

http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/200612722377.aspx
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/29/AE/17932841-8c67-028001EC-.jpg
http://www.brandonblog.homestead.com/files/blog-o-.bag15003081656.jpg
http://www.openfire.us/blog/archives/images/2006/Troops with Iraqi Children 1.jpg
http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/A...005-08/article_hires/20050819142701_rand2.jpg
http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/A...005-08/article_hires/20050819142743_rand3.jpg
http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/images/misc/new_shoes3.jpg
http://www.rocwheels.org/Article1_files/image001.jpg
http://www.brandonblog.com/blogucapt.1058369541.jpg
http://www.spiritofamerica.net/phot...te pics17/soldiers distirbute pics_medium.jpg
http://baldilocks.typepad.com/baldilocks/images/soldiers.jpg
http://michaelyon-online.com/media/images/disp/showandtell/lg/Soldiers-and-Kids.jpg
http://www.laughatliberals.com/blog/wp-images/11.jpg
http://www.lexlibertas.com/pics/OIC 3.jpg
http://www.why-buy-dinar.com/images/troops1.jpg
http://www.state.gov/cms_images/0303_ap_soldier_kids.jpg
http://blogs.sltrib.com/iraq/images/iraq_kids_0081.jpg
http://iraqwarnews.net/uploaded_images/7-29-06g-771954.jpg
http://www.zoto.com/maryann/img/original/460dc0b8d791c3f6d1dc30d283994e5d-.jpg
http://www.zoto.com/maryann/img/original/1e42daf3bf0869d0d9a25672292404fd-.jpg
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/Children.jpg

This is what I'm proud of...to be their heroes.


I don't have time to sit down and watch 4 hours of propaganda.

Also, what do you think of what Smedley Butler and Chris White said?

I read some of it, I disagree, but they're entitled to their opinion.
 
One question that I just want to throw out there is what about the people that actually witnessed the crashes at the pentagon and the WTC? Yes people can be paid off and the truth can be buried in political BS but military members died that day at the pentagon and 343 of my brother firefighters died at ground zero. If I have learned anything in my short life span this far (from actual been there done that experince) is that military and Fire Dept members will always get the truth when one of their own has been lost. So I don't see how any of these theories of inside jobs or my favorite one of a US Navy ship launching cruise missles at the US have any truth to them.

I'm sorry if the links have valid points to them but I only have so much computer time and can not view all of them.
 
In general, most big conspiracies are highly improbable. It's hard enough to keep a secret between a small group of friends; it's even more difficult to disguise it from thousands, if not millions, of witnesses.

Then again, it's almost impossible to debate a conspiracy theorist. Even if the government would have shown a surveillance photograph of an airplane flying into the Pentagon immediately after the attack, there would be plenty of conspiracy theorists who would doubt the validity of that evidence.

No matter what happens in the world, from the murky to the obvious, there will be a conspiracy theorist attempting to explain it, with logic often impaired by extreme paranoia and/or a desire to create a good thriller.
 
In general, most big conspiracies are highly improbable. It's hard enough to keep a secret between a small group of friends; it's even more difficult to disguise it from thousands, if not millions, of witnesses.

Then again, it's almost impossible to debate a conspiracy theorist. Even if the government would have shown a surveillance photograph of an airplane flying into the Pentagon immediately after the attack, there would be plenty of conspiracy theorists who would doubt the validity of that evidence.

No matter what happens in the world, from the murky to the obvious, there will be a conspiracy theorist attempting to explain it, with logic often impaired by extreme paranoia and/or a desire to create a good thriller.

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However, since there is no way to verify who I am, the American Society of Civil Engineers also published a report after the collapse. They did forensic investigations into the collapse and published their findings for the world. They didn't notice anything funny either.

We have to wonder if they sold out though.

Hole in one, Togu. Hole in one.
 
I'd like to get your opinion on these two videos.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...292490&pl=true
http://video.google.es/videoplay?doc...31388742388243
I don't have time to sit down and watch 4 hours of propaganda.
If you want to actually impress the other person, you have to refute his argument--not dismiss it as propaganda with no analysis.

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Also, what do you think of what Smedley Butler and Chris White said?

I read some of it, I disagree, but they're entitled to their opinion.

Tell us why. Have you done any investigation? Is this just your intuition?


As for the pictures in post #24--what does it prove? Does it prove that what Michel Chossudovsky said in his video isn't true (reply #23, second link)? No matter why we went into Iraq, it wouldn't be hard to get pictures like that for propaganda purposes.


One question that I just want to throw out there is what about the people that actually witnessed the crashes at the pentagon and the WTC? Yes people can be paid off and the truth can be buried in political BS but military members died that day at the pentagon and 343 of my brother firefighters died at ground zero. If I have learned anything in my short life span this far (from actual been there done that experince) is that military and Fire Dept members will always get the truth when one of their own has been lost. So I don't see how any of these theories of inside jobs or my favorite one of a US Navy ship launching cruise missles at the US have any truth to them.

There are lots of explanations for that.

A 757 might have overflown the Pentagon just before the plane that really hit the Pentagon arrived from another angle.
The witnesses might have been planted.
If there was a plan, anyone who reported the truth would have been ignored by the press.
Have you seen this video?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6317630216235657870

This video explains a lot.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871

Let's hear some analyses of them.
 
May I subit "exibit A" a bullit having been fired in a ballistics lab, and then passed off the the AMERICAN public (and indeed the WORLD) as the very instrument of death to JFK. Defies the laws of physics, and most people today can understand that.

OK, WTC7 collapsed in a VERY orderly manner, even though the fires where not evenly distributed in the building and the stuff from the towers that is said to have overloaded the roof could not possibly have been orderly and coherant, therefore - to see an orderly and coherant collapse of WTC7 is illogical!

I also take issue with the lack of Air Defense response, more than half an hour elapsed between the second hit to the WTC and the hit to the PENTAGON, and we already had aircraft on their way to New York City, and the speeds that these jets are capable of, they could have been over Washington D.C. in time to confront "FLT77"

I charge George W. Bush and Richard Cheney with Criminal Incompetence,
(at the very least!)

Quite frankly I am shocked that there are not more taxpayers who are VERY concerned about this in that we the people paid big bucks to have a DEFENSE DEPARTMENT that on 9/11/2001 FAILED to defend even its own HQ!

just my bit here....

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and as we all know
9/11 was an inside job!
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May I subit "exibit A" a bullit having been fired in a ballistics lab, and then passed off the the AMERICAN public (and indeed the WORLD) as the very instrument of death to JFK. Defies the laws of physics, and most people today can understand that.

OK, WTC7 collapsed in a VERY orderly manner, even though the fires where not evenly distributed in the building and the stuff from the towers that is said to have overloaded the roof could not possibly have been orderly and coherant, therefore - to see an orderly and coherant collapse of WTC7 is illogical!

I also take issue with the lack of Air Defense response, more than half an hour elapsed between the second hit to the WTC and the hit to the PENTAGON, and we already had aircraft on their way to New York City, and the speeds that these jets are capable of, they could have been over Washington D.C. in time to confront "FLT77"

I charge George W. Bush and Richard Cheney with Criminal Incompetence,
(at the very least!)

Quite frankly I am shocked that there are not more taxpayers who are VERY concerned about this in that we the people paid big bucks to have a DEFENSE DEPARTMENT that on 9/11/2001 FAILED to defend even its own HQ!

just my bit here....

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
and as we all know
9/11 was an inside job!
.

The plane that hit the Pentagon could have easily been going to Raegan International. Have you ever been to Washington? If you have ever flown into Raegan, you would know that the approach for landing there takes you right past the Pentagon. By the time anyone realized that the plane was not going to land at Raegan, it would have been faaaaar too late to get anyone there to shoot it down.

As for WTC 7, if you look at the aerial photos of ground zero, you will notice a debris path that leads directly to the center of WTC 7. The falling debris most certainly knocked out a lot of support columns. The fires simply finished the job.

If you really want to get into a discussion of Kennedy, keep in mind that the History Channel had a sniper recreate the shot perfectly using a couple of dummies filled with ballistics gel. They got the head to snap around in the same manner and everything. I hope you are aware that half of the things that people think are true about the JFK assassination are simply fiction pulled from the mind of Oliver Stone to make his movie more plausable.
 
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