Dr.Who
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In general, yes.
A Marxist that likes unions. No surprise there. But it is one more reason for the rest of us to dislike unions.
In general, yes.
Hmm, the better question is does Obama hate America as it was?
All of his policies are destroying it.
Most people don't like unemployment he creates!
Most people don't like a president that bad mouths America!
Most people don't like a president that is lying through his teeth about the
healthcare plan and what it will cost.
Just like 1+1=2, this country already is sliding downward in world view.
Today America rates 13th best to live in? Under Bush it was rated higher, but who cares, right!
We can't get the Olympics, although Bush had it guaranteed in the bag,
then Obama loses it for us, nice! Now his supporters say the Olympics aren't that important.
Obama seems not to
be trying really. He can't even decide what to do in Afghanistan!
Yet we aren't supposed to complain and if we do we are called racists, uncle-toms, oreo cookies!
Yes race relations are going backward under Obama also.
Doesn't matter the dollar it represents is out there somewhere moving around in the economy.
What? Gimme one other reason.A Marxist that likes unions. No surprise there. But it is one more reason for the rest of us to dislike unions.
Yeah it does matter. If putting money in a bank was such a stimulus, then the government would encourage us to increase our savings rate instead of telling us to keep up our consumerism.
As with all former Presidents...I'm just allowing this current administraion time to work at their jobs and in 'HOPE' that this president will be able to do ½ of what he wanted to do & promised to do on his campaign tour...
BUT quite a few of the 'lessor thinking' hate mongers around here will be hard pressed to form a thoughtful non racist opinion about the 'TRUTH' of the "WHY DO THEY HATE" our new president as they have proven with their continual smut posts...they have no quantified rational reason, they just have whiny excuses and hidden angry agendas that follow the thought processes of their leaders ie Rush Limbaugh's & Glen Becks of this world.
This is my favorite paragraph in a long time. You do realize that the numbers those rankings are compiled from are based on 2007 numbers? Not exactly something you can blame on the current President. But it adds evidence to some theories I have developed.Hmm, the better question is does Obama hate America as it was?
All of his policies are destroying it.
Most people don't like unemployment he creates!
Most people don't like a president that bad mouths America!
Most people don't like a president that is lying through his teeth about the
healthcare plan and what it will cost.
Just like 1+1=2, this country already is sliding downward in world view.
Today America rates 13th best to live in? Under Bush it was rated higher, but who cares, right!
It has been his detractors who cheered at the news, or quietly got glee in percieving his failure after they criticized so heavily his efforts in the first place. The fact of the matter is that nothing was going to please those critical of him about the olympics, which are generally the same people who are critical of anything and everything he does.We can't get the Olympics, although Bush had it guaranteed in the bag,
then Obama loses it for us, nice! Now his supporters say the Olympics aren't that important.
He cant decide what to do in Afghanistan? Hell he has been in there 9 months of a fluid situation. Bush had 6 solid years of war if Afghanistan. Nuff Said.Obama seems not to
be trying really. He can't even decide what to do in Afghanistan!
There would not be nearly as much hooplah is Palin herself was running the country. I know there are plenty of people who dislike the President based on policy. There also those among collective meltdown that has happened in certain circles of American political movement that base this at its foundation because of his background. If it wasnt Barak Hussien Obama the socialist muslim from Nigeria who got brainwashed in Indonesia.Yet we aren't supposed to complain and if we do we are called racists, uncle-toms, oreo cookies!
Yes race relations are going backward under Obama also.
Is it a normal leftist tactic to make up a question composed of "Why do you...." followed by a talking-points lie?
Is this what you folks substitute for actual debate, when you can't refute what your opposition is saying?
My sympathies.
I don't hate Obama, any more or less than I hated Bush, or Clinton.
Obama is just a man. Nothing more, nothing less.
The problem is, I completely disagree with his policies. I disagree with his methods. I disagree with his false "hope" he gives people.
Every time there has ever been a spectacular cultist following of someone promising to fix all the worlds problems, there has been an equally spectacular destruction at the end.
This country was built, not by a single visionary leader who foresaw a great nation, but rather by rugged individualism, and everyone working to improve their own lives, and indirectly the lives of everyone else.
How many nations have been ruined by those claiming to be able to fix everything? Hitler? Mugabe? Stalin? Mao? Pol Pot? Hugo Chavez?
I'm currently reading a book "Panama Fever", and it's simply amazing the number of times, prior to the Panama Canal, how many countries sent people claiming they'd create world peace by making the Panama Canal. Dozens of countries, sent millions and trillions of dollars, to Panama. Each time in massive failure with thousands of deaths, only to have some other looney stand up and claim he'd do it. He'd bring about the golden age. He'd fix the worlds problems. He'd cause world peace.
Yet people are so lame it seems, that each time we have a massive failure, some other yahoo stands up claiming they can really do it, and all the US citizens start chanting "hope and change", only to find out that like all the others, it was a shaman.
Obama is no different. After giving billions to auto companies, they still filed for bankruptcy. After continuing the TARP fund, all the banks that were in trouble, still were closed or bought out. After passing the Stimulus, the economy continued to tank even faster than his own people projected.
I'd be hard pressed to see one thing he was successful at, given all the vast ambiguous promises he made.
I have to agree with the majority of Andy's post...Bunz, you presuppose that hate is the basis behind the reactions. Maybe in some cases it is, but the reality is that many of us are just opposed to the methodology and ideology that this Administration and Congress are pitching. I believe the intense anger that occurs from some has less to do with racism and more to do with fear. Having worked very hard to go from meager beginnings to something better. It scares me when it is suggested that it will no longer be voluntary to help the less fortunate. Can we make this country a better place...hell yeah...but it will take the creation of new jobs and that seems to be very low on this Administrations and Congress' laundry list. It's not about hate...it's about fear.
I have to agree with the majority of Andy's post...Bunz, you presuppose that hate is the basis behind the reactions. Maybe in some cases it is, but the reality is that many of us are just opposed to the methodology and ideology that this Administration and Congress are pitching. I believe the intense anger that occurs from some has less to do with racism and more to do with fear. Having worked very hard to go from meager beginnings to something better. It scares me when it is suggested that it will no longer be voluntary to help the less fortunate. Can we make this country a better place...hell yeah...but it will take the creation of new jobs and that seems to be very low on this Administrations and Congress' laundry list. It's not about hate...it's about fear.
I would suggest that the bridges which turned out to be critical infastructure and allowed the economy to expand making modern America possible.Huh, what did society ever give me or my family? No one in my direct family has ever received welfare or even unemployment. The infrastructure (roads, bridges, water, and electricity) has been paid for every step of the way (taxes) and I'll argue was more expensive because of the regulatory methodology created by FDR.
I think there is plenty of credible evidence that for the far majority of humanity, and Americans very much included in this...they will live thier entire life in the same class as they were born. The poor stay poor and the rich stay rich. This comes largely from thier access to resources in all forms in thier development. Access to resources comes from infrastructure.How does improving ones standard of living destroy the framework? How did my community give me an opportunity to achieve? What the hell are you talking about? Again, "individualistic" means that you take the bull by the horns and you make a better life, not wait for the "community" to provide you an opportunity. Remember, it is always one or two people in every community that creates the inertia that allows everyone else to succeed. The day you stop giving those couple people incentive we might as well just lower our expectations because communities have never innovated or grown anything.
Yeah it does matter. If putting money in a bank was such a stimulus, then the government would encourage us to increase our savings rate instead of telling us to keep up our consumerism.
What? Gimme one other reason.
Unions have served their usefulness and are now obsolete. Today when a person joins a union they are just throwing away their dues as it offers no greater protection from say, being forced into child labor, than not joining a union.
No doubt most Americans recognize this and it is why union membership is soo low right now.