this is doing everything to help with gas ?

thats what BO thinks

or at least what he's saying
he has taken about every sep short of banning import to make gas cost more. hiw stupid does he think people are ?

I hope they tell you to your face you are a fraud.

don't sugarcoat it steve, tell us how you really feel...

I feel like payback...

Newsflash! The price of gasoline depends on supply and demand, which, in turn, depends on oil supply and demand.


not on the actions of the president.

and oil is traded internationally, not just domestically.


anyone who tells you that he can affect gasoline prices from the White House is full of hooey, BS. and hot air.

And BS smells the same whether the hot air is coming from the "left" or from the "right". Ever walk next to a manure pile when a warm wind was blowing from it to you?

his currency devaluation is mostly to do with this so yes, he might have made a positive impact there were he not hell bent to push the export curve little. but an honest and earnest commitment to energy independence would shift the paradigm in the world market.

Yes, it would definitely be a paradigm shift.

and it's high time we got serious about shifting it in our favor.

too bad BO thinks the answer is algae. constructive change cannot occur with this administration.

Algae could turn out to be a part of the solution.

It's a renewable resource, grows quickly, and can be used as an energy source to help replace imported oil.

I guess it could be but no time soon.
A staged approach is called for and we've wasted enough time already.

That is so.

We've been wasting time since the OPEC oil crisis of the '70s, at which time we should have gotten serious about the issue of energy independence. My guess is that we'll continue to waste time until the issue threatens to totally destroy our economy, then point fingers of blame and run in circles for a while. After that, perhaps we'll begin to work on the problem in a systematic and rational way.

But, I'm not sure we will even then.

so much for that Dept of Energy huh ?

I would like to think the cost curve is such that its an easier sell. T.Boone gives me hope its true. We could put a lot of people to work by tapping into natural gas right now. The tech is here and now and the distribution network nearly there as well. That buys us time to find something better.

Mainly have to get government out of the way I believe.

On that score, I think you're right. The role of government would be to fund research, but the government is currently out of funds.

and out of money in part due to paying back favors.
not that I think they have any business funding research. there is massive upside for the guy that develops the better mousetrap here. no incentive needed, more freedom required and that means no government.

not sure I'd call it a by product though it does often appear where oil also is. In the old days they would burn it off then they realized it was valuable as a fuel in itself and started capturing it.