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The end of off shore detention.

Discussion in 'Australian Politics' started by Aus22, Apr 28, 2016.

  1. Aus22

    Aus22 Well-Known Member

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    Papua New Guinea Supreme Court has ruled the Australia Detention Centre to be illegal. The New Guinea government is about to close it down. Australia will have to remove the 700 boat people detained there. They will not allow them to come to Australia. So they will have to open another off shore detention centre. This may not last long if it in a foreign country. Off shore detention does not work in the long term.
     
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    Could just send them back where they came from. Seems like the obvious solution.
     
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    Half the people in the camp have been rules political refugees fleeing from persecution in the their home lands. They can not be sent back to their home countries because of this. They ca not be sent back to their last port Indonesia as it has too man refugees.
     
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    These are Australia's problem why ?
     
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    dogtower, They are Australia problem because they arrive in boats headed for Australia. To prevent this we arrested them and sent them to detention camps in Nauru and PNG. We run the camps. Both major political parties say they can never come to Australia for this will encourage more to come by boat. They can not be sent back to their own countries Syria, Iran and Iraq because they ae not wanted back or there is a war on.
    They can be settled in a third country but so far only Cambodia and PNG are willing to take them. Few refugees want to live in these countries
     
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    Off shore detention does work. Many countries have camps/detention centers/prisons offshore. The United States had GitMo for years. I don't blame the Aussies for not wanting to grant these people asylum. So many people want to move to that country because of its greatness, but they are smart to finally start to tighten the reins on immigration a little in general.
     
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    Beggars can't be choosers. If there are countries willing to accept refugees they should be sent to those countries.

    I believe that this refugee crisis is only going to get worse unless the world does something to end the wars in the Middle East, North Africa and elsewhere. And that will take decades. In the meantime refugees and other opportunists will seek a better life in Europe, Australia and the U.S.
     
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    I am a US citizen, but if I was a refugee, I would certainly try to see asylum in the US, Australia, or Canada. If you're seeking a better life for you and your family, with opportunity, safety, and protection. I don't think it gets any better than those three. Anywhere else someone thinks should be on the list?
     
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    This is the problem. The countries you want to go do not want you. Also even if you took them to a third country say New Zealand, you will have o tell that country not to let them in Australia.
     
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    The line "The refugees don't want to go to live in these countries" says it all for me really, and it shouldn't matter what they want. They should be given two choices, either we send you back to where you came from or we send you to one of the countries that WILL accept you.

    To claim they're refugees and fleeing a country because of the fear of death and persecution is all very well as they're making their way to the golden coastlines of Australia, if the only other option is Cambodia then I'm guessing there won't be as many willing to make the journey?
     
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    Powarbi. That may be the case. But Australia is looking for other countries to take them > I agree if they only want Australia and know we will never left them in they will stop coming. But what do we do with the once already in detention camps?
     
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    Return to sender. Just because they want to leave does not mean you have to take them.
     
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    Who is the sender? the present government of Iraq or the various governments of Syria. We do send some back but not to a war zone.
     
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    They come direct from the middle east ?
     
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    No some came from Indonesia> But is it fair to send them back to Indonesia. We will have pay a price as Europe has done with Turkey.
     
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