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The Chief and subjects.

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    Situation: An island chain surrounded by water, thousands of miles around until the next land mass outside of the chain is inhabitable.

    The Chief of the islands has sworn to destroy all that belong to those that oppose him. All have sworn loyalty to the Chief except 1. This 1 is loyal to another Chief.

    The Chief of the islands dictates what occurs on the islands and this 1 opposing person is not going to go too far without his Chief coming to assist him.

    The Chief and the islanders await to see what his Chief will do or will not do.

    All traveling vehicles off the Islands are monitored and controlled by the Chief of the islands and the Chief will make it extremely difficult for the 1 person to leave on his own. The Chief of the Islands desires to see what his Chief will or will not do. It is as a challenge.

    Monetary supplies are also monitored and governed by the Chief of the Islands not to mention the slow attack to the other Chief's Kingdom's subject while on the islands.

    1000's of miles of water in every direction until the next inhabitable land mass.


    The 1 person is slowly deteriorating, constantly under attack with the only line of communication with his Chief being their own personal line of communication. The Chief of this person is aware of what His Kingdom's subject is going through on the islands.


    Life could resume but the Island's Chief is not going to let go of his ruling power; to rule and monitor every islander's every move and action. And it is for this reason the islanders had no other choice but to become his subject matters on the islands.


    The islanders do as they are told by the Chief of the islands. The Chief's rules and laws govern their lives and illegality is a matter of decision based on the Chief's desires.
     
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    All along the Chief of that 1 person has been criticized, mocked, provoked. 'Come here and show us what you got', the Islands' Chief and his islanders would say. 'Come here and let us see for ourselves that you are greater than us and our Chief', they insist. But because He does nothing, they slowly attack His 1 subject on the islands. 'Let us attack His subject and then maybe He will show up'. 'Let us destroy that person and then see if his Chief will do anything'.
     
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    Wisdom 2:

    1 And this is the false argument they use, 'Our life is short and dreary, there is no remedy when our end comes, no one is known to have come back from Hades.

    2 We came into being by chance and afterwards shall be as though we had never been. The breath in our nostrils is a puff of smoke, reason a spark from the beating of our hearts;

    3 extinguish this and the body turns to ashes, and the spirit melts away like the yielding air.

    4 In time, our name will be forgotten, nobody will remember what we have done; our life will pass away like wisps of cloud, dissolving like the mist that the sun's rays drive away and that its heat dispels.

    5 For our days are the passing of a shadow, our end is without return, the seal is affixed and nobody comes back.

    6 'Come then, let us enjoy the good things of today, let us use created things with the zest of youth:

    7 take our fill of the dearest wines and perfumes, on no account forgo the flowers of spring

    8 but crown ourselves with rosebuds before they wither,

    9 no meadow excluded from our orgy; let us leave the signs of our revelry everywhere, since this is our portion, this our lot!

    10 'As for the upright man who is poor, let us oppress him; let us not spare the widow, nor respect old age, white-haired with many years.

    11 Let our might be the yardstick of right, since weakness argues its own futility.

    12 Let us lay traps for the upright man, since he annoys us and opposes our way of life, reproaches us for our sins against the Law, and accuses us of sins against our upbringing.

    13 He claims to have knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord.

    14 We see him as a reproof to our way of thinking, the very sight of him weighs our spirits down;

    15 for his kind of life is not like other people's, and his ways are quite different.

    16 In his opinion we are counterfeit; he avoids our ways as he would filth; he proclaims the final end of the upright as blessed and boasts of having God for his father.

    17 Let us see if what he says is true, and test him to see what sort of end he will have.

    18 For if the upright man is God's son, God will help him and rescue him from the clutches of his enemies.

    19 Let us test him with cruelty and with torture, and thus explore this gentleness of his and put his patience to the test.

    20 Let us condemn him to a shameful death since God will rescue him -- or so he claims.'

    21 This is the way they reason, but they are misled, since their malice makes them blind.

    22 They do not know the hidden things of God, they do not hope for the reward of holiness, they do not believe in a reward for blameless souls.

    23 For God created human beings to be immortal, he made them as an image of his own nature;

    24 Death came into the world only through the Devil's envy, as those who belong to him find to their cost.
     
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    For God created human beings to be immortal, he made them as an image of his own nature.....

    But the cost to them that belong not to God is contrary.
     
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    Genesis 4:3-8 "And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. 4And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: 5But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. 6And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? 7If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. 8And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him."
     
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    Unfortunately, all of life needed to live within this line of 'family'... But not until Noah.
     
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    Regardless of how anyone 'looks' at this, there are only one of a few possibilities.

    #1: Turn from evil and do good.
    #2: Not turn from evil.
    #3: Talk, talk, talk about this and that and this and that without accomplishing anything.
    #4: Turn from good and do evil.
    #5: Not give a care about anything, too much...
    #6: Feign to either do this or that.

    etc. etc. etc...
     
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    So that's all fine and dandy, I guess... but what about those few persons whose Chief is another than 'man' or 'woman'?


    They can do everything just the same without the 'upright in the way' person needing to be there to continually go through attacks, traps and even part recipient of the insults towards his Chief.


    10 'As for the upright man who is poor, let us oppress him; let us not spare the widow, nor respect old age, white-haired with many years.

    11 Let our might be the yardstick of right, since weakness argues its own futility.

    12 Let us lay traps for the upright man, since he annoys us and opposes our way of life, reproaches us for our sins against the Law, and accuses us of sins against our upbringing.

    13 He claims to have knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord.

    14 We see him as a reproof to our way of thinking, the very sight of him weighs our spirits down;


    17 Let us see if what he says is true, and test him to see what sort of end he will have.

    19 Let us test him with cruelty and with torture, and thus explore this gentleness of his and put his patience to the test.

    20 Let us condemn him to a shameful death since God will rescue him -- or so he claims.'

    - Wisdom 2
     
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    Ecclesiastes 8:11 "...the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil."


    The [one] heart of the sons... is fully set in them.... to do evil....


    "Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily..."
     
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    With Noah, there was obedience.
     
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