Oil Solution?

Sihouette

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It's weird how a few political sites I've been to have all of a sudden been attacked by spammers posting any topic but the most glaring one of all...the oil spill in the Gulf. If I was the suspicious type, I'd be thinking shills were working triple-time to divert topics away from BigOil's big stain.

Anyway....

I wonder if all these commercial fishermen could strike a deal with BigOil where they use their vessels to suck up oil slicks and chug the stuff back to refineries where they are paid by the gallon? At the end of the cleanup, providing there is an end, the oil companies agree to buy them a new vessel to replace the old hull that will by then be too contaminated to store the catch in?

It seems like lemons to lemonade would dictate that we recover as much of this oil as possible and shunt it over to strategic reserves. Why not? Instead of getting it from a rig, we just suck it off the top of the ocean. Saves marine life and creates a secondary industry off this disaster.
 
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Is the crude floating on the ocean right now highly flammable or is it really the methane that blew up the rig? If this crude is flammable, then how do they manage it from not detonating supertankers every other day? I think it could be done and I think it would make an impact. I'm beginning to think though that the shills don't want it to happen because BP's whole MO right now is denying responsibility and trying to make it "everyone's liability".

That ain't gonna happen when the chips fall this Fall. The last vestige of the GOP-synonymous-with-BigOil base is in the south along the Gulf Coast. So they'd better get smart right now and start compensating people to do stuff just like this to recover oil for America. If they think they're not going to have to pay someone for something, I've got news for them. They could take this PR opportunity or pay a thousand time more later in PR-damage control once dems grab Congress' supermajority this Fall. *shudders for BP/GOP at that point*

At the very least, doing a one-boat experiment and then asking BP to utilize this resource would force them in a position of refusing. Then later when calculations are done in courtrooms, the size of a fleet that could've responded, the gallons per boat per load and number of loads per day as relief to the disaster to recover oil and mitigate damage will be considered the dollar value of proven negligence on BP's behalf in refusing, yet again, common sense measures to keep their operations from destroying other industry and livelihoods..
 
ScienceDaily (Aug. 5, 2005) — A simple tank-and-siphon system for removing oil from oily water and protecting the environment is about to be launched internationally by an engineering team from the University of New South Wales.

The Extended Gravity Oil Water Separation (EGOWS) concept is an improvement on the industry-standard American Petroleum Institute (API) gravity separator that has been widely used for the last 60 years.

The API separator, originally designed for oil refineries, is not designed to reduce the oil content of water below about 100 parts per million and is not suitable for releasing water directly to the environment...

.. Although other systems can achieve low effluent oil contents, they tend to be more energy intensive and incur higher costs, particularly for ongoing maintenance, says David Tolmie, who developed EGOWS with colleague Peter Stone from the University's Water Research Laboratory in the School of Civil and Environmental Engineering.

"EGOWS can removes oil down to below 10 parts per million, requires no power and is most useful in situations that are unattended," says Mr Tolmie. "Most of the EGOWS installations to date in Australia have been in electricity substations to eliminate the small but potentially disastrous risk of a major spill of oil to the environment." ..

..The system's secret lies in its ability to take episodic inflows of oily water and extend the time it spends in the separator tank.

Because oil is less dense, it rises to the surface of the water. The more time given to effluent water in the separator, the more oil that can be separated. EGOWS achieves a separation time of days in the tank as opposed to 20 or 30 minutes in an API separator.

This is achieved by arranging for the separator to be in a partially emptied state before the arrival of episodic inflows of oily water. When the separator is full, water is released automatically using a siphon that involves no mechanical devices or power requirements.

Oily water inflows are accumulated progressively, with no release of water until it reaches a siphon priming level. API separators and other separators that operate full of water , release equal quantities of water as soon as there is an episodic inflow of oily water, creating the risk that oil droplets can escape into the separator outlet.

Tolmie and Stone began researching their concept back in the late 1990s when Energy Australia asked them to review their oil separator systems.

"We were looking for a simpler way of doing things," says Tolmie. "One way is to make the tank bigger -- and that works -- but we realised we could use the existing API separators more productively. The beauty of our concept is that existing systems can be retrofitted with relative ease."

New South Innovations, the commercialisation arm of UNSW, has since patented the concept and successfully licensed it to Australian companies. . Energy Australia estimates their EGOWS system could save the company $18 million in 10 years. Caltex Australia has installed two EGOWS units which they describe as innovative and highly effective solutions to their stormwater treatment requirements.

New South Innovations has obtained patents in America, Europe, New Zealand and parts of Asia and is actively looking for potential international licensees.

"The cost of an oil spill clean up can be many times the cost of a separator which will contain the oil spill automatically," said Tolmie.

EGOWS is suitable for use with episodic inflows of oil or oily water in such places as electricity substations, oil storages, transport and container terminals, highways and ports. ~http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/08/050805110230.htm

So the separation part can be done. Just need some pumps and hulls to put it in.
 
Your insight is unlike anyone in Washington. What you just input makes SENSE! They want to make a mountain out of a molehill in order to so-called "fix" any problem. Alas, we may have some good people in Washington but they are run over by the majority, i.e. greedy politicians who care nothing about our fiscal welfare. Getting rid of them is as hopeless as finding a cure for cancer. Horribly put, but that's the only analogy I can come up with at the moment. It looks like it will be up to the citizens of each State to get things done on their own. Otherwise, we are a failing society.
 
lol...thanks. You never know though. They have people reading these sites more than you think. Maybe one will see this and a lightbulb will go on over their head? Have faith. It does amazing things..
 
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So another thing I was thinking of would be to get deeper booms to do a full circumference surround around the locus of the spill emergence zone, corral the oil there at a greater depth and suck it out with waiting tankers until the well head is fixed.

Those booms they have near shore where the wave break is, is a joke! The waves slosh the oil right over the top of the boom and onto the shore. They need to think of containing it near the head, not after it travels miles and destroys everything in it's path.. jesus... how hard could this be?

It reminds me once of when we were going to slaughter a pig. We'd almost got it to the kill site and it escaped. Three people chased it all over the place to no avail. As if. It was all over the place. I was one of them until I got tired and decided to use my head instead. I went and got a big heaping pail of slops and took it right to where I always fed it and made the others back away. Then right at ground zero while it was eating, my friend walked right up to it without incident and shot it in the head. Went down like a sack of potatoes.

The point is that when you panic and freak out, against something like an oiled pig, like this spill is, you're never going to think of the obvious and easy solutions. They need to quit focusing on chasing that pig all over the Gulf Coasts and instead kill it right where it lives.
 
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