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NOAA scientist blows the whistle on NOAA

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  1. dogtowner

    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    OMG! It's a conspiracy by NOAA et. al. to dupe all of the world leaders! What's behind this sensational story?


    and the paper was flawed because:

    Dr. Bates, the "whistleblower" didn't like the evaluation process.

    Yep. That proves it. Global warming is a hoax, shown by the current years being just normal years... what? Hottest on record?

    Well, then, it's time to shift the discussion from "the Earth isn't heating up" to "of course it is, but humans aren't responsible."
     
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    .... not quite
    https://science.house.gov/sites/rep...files/documents/NOAA Karl Study One-Pager.pdf

     
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    Dr Bates the whistle blower wrote the NOAA evaluation process and it was not followed.
    NOAA put out a paper that even NOAA knew was wrong to satisfy political demands.
    They were the last group subject to this. Everyone else gas been walking back.
     
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    The proof of whether warming continued during the supposed hiatus lies in current temperatures.
     
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    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    Which is the problem as they keep getting changed.
    But satellite data does not and need not.
     
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    Current temperatures keep getting changed?
    Has a "whistle blower" contested 2016 as the warmest year on record?
     
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    You change old to make new look worse. You change new to make the global hit your target.
     
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    So, that's how you carry out a conspiracy involving dozens of scientific agencies and several governments. Good to know.
     
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    NOAA owns the land based data. They don't have to conspire.
     
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    Oh.
    So, it's just the rest of the scientific community that is fudging data to make their case while the leaders are discussing global warming.
     
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    And not only in the USA, all scientist in the whole world:

     
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    I was thinking that we could parse that a littel...
    "people lie so that the leaders can discuss global warming"

    I think the point should be why did NOAA feel they had to manipulate data and how did they think they would get away with it? If all they wanted to do was lobby for the Obama administration then why expend vast amounts of time and money, employing scientists and analysts all they needed to do was copy other peoples skewed research from the internet.
     
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    If I understand you correctly, yeah I guess that’s about right. Think about it, a lone scientist that attempts to contradict the inviolable "truths" of the establishments view of warming doctrine, were the established participants intuitively grasp the value of such “group think”, suddenly marks that scientist as a dangerous outsider and one who must be marginalized, discredited or broken. Most of the articles written about this guy attached the term "whistleblower" to him which within a profession always carries a negative connotation.
     
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    No one manipulated data. The facts simply don't support that opinion.
     
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