National DEBT; Bush vs. Obama

Mr. Shaman

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Way to GO, DUMBYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"Here's a new way to think about the U.S. government's epic borrowing: More than half of the $9 trillion in debt that Uncle Sam is expected to build up over the next decade will be interest.

More than half. In fact, $4.8 trillion.


If that's hard to grasp, here's another way to look at why that's a problem.

In 2015 alone, the estimated interest due - $533 billion - is equal to a third of the federal income taxes expected to be paid that year, said Charles Konigsberg, chief budget counsel of the Concord Coalition, a deficit watchdog group.

On the bright side - such as it is - the record levels of debt issued lately have paid for stimulus and other rescue programs that prevented the economy from falling off a cliff. And the money was borrowed at very low rates.

But accumulating any more interest on what the United States owes at this point is like extreme sport: dangerous.

All the more so because interest rates will rise when private sector borrowers return to the debt market and compete with the government for capital. At that point, the country's interest payments could jack up very fast."

Reaganbushenomic$ & high-roller TAX-CUT$; ain't it GRAND??!!!

(....Especially when you can stick the taxpayers with minimum-monthly payments!!!!)​
 
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Way to GO, DUMBYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reaganbushenomic$ & high-roller TAX-CUT$; ain't it GRAND??!!!

(....Especially when you can stick the taxpayers with minimum-monthly payments!!!!)​

The interest rates reported by the Treasury department on its debt is not exactly any "lower" than historical levels.
 
The interest rates reported by the Treasury department on its debt is not exactly any "lower" than historical levels.
Yeah....I'm sure that was a consideration, for all o' those high-roller$ who needed BUSHCO's pre-War tax-cut$!!

:rolleyes:
 
So, do you not deny that the rates now are pretty similar under Bush?
What I'm saying, is....during the Reagan/Bush years (when Daddy Bush was playing the role The DICK; Cheney played, during the Dumbya years), the federal-government was eating-up in-exce$$ of 50% of the available-credit (in the U.S.)!!

When it comes to paying-bills, another o' those Bush Doctrines (already adopted by Sarah Palin) is to BORROW all required-spending, stick the taxpayers with the minimum-monthly-payment, and dole-out everything (presently, in saving$/surplus) as tax-cut$, for the 1%ers!!!!

The LAST thing the high-rollers/1%ers are worried-about is the interest-rate! They've already stuck the middle-class with the BULK-o'-the debt-payments, ANYhow!!!!!!

When the crap-hits-the-fan (i.e. the debt's gotten excessisve), the "conservatives"/1%ers are voted-OUT of D.C. (for a well-earned rest)....waiting, waiting, waiting....for Dems to generate our next $urplu$/$aving$/rainy-day fund$!!!!! (...you know, for things like KATRINA!!!)​
 
What I'm saying, is....during the Reagan/Bush years (when Daddy Bush was playing the role The DICK; Cheney played, during the Dumbya years), the federal-government was eating-up in-exce$$ of 50% of the available-credit (in the U.S.)!!

When it comes to paying-bills, another o' those Bush Doctrines (already adopted by Sarah Palin) is to BORROW all required-spending, stick the taxpayers with the minimum-monthly-payment, and dole-out everything (presently, in saving$/surplus) as tax-cut$, for the 1%ers!!!!

The LAST thing the high-rollers/1%ers are worried-about is the interest-rate! They've already stuck the middle-class with the BULK-o'-the debt-payments, ANYhow!!!!!!

When the crap-hits-the-fan (i.e. the debt's gotten excessisve), the "conservatives"/1%ers are voted-OUT of D.C. (for a well-earned rest)....waiting, waiting, waiting....for Dems to generate our next $urplu$/$aving$/rainy-day fund$!!!!! (...you know, for things like KATRINA!!!)​

Your original story attempts to excuse the record setting borrowing that is currently underway by claiming it was done at very low rates. That is not really true, the rates have been pretty much the same.

I don't know how you manage your finances, but adding a few trillion to the debt is not going to make things better.

Not to mention, you claim the Middle Class is stuck with the majority of the debt payments, but those are done through taxes, and the rich pay the most taxes.
 
Your original story attempts to excuse the record setting borrowing that is currently underway by claiming it was done at very low rates. That is not really true, the rates have been pretty much the same.


The original story also attempted to excuse the current borrowing by claiming that attempts to stop financial disasters (which were unnecessary and based on false assertions) are more important than dubious attempts to stop terrorism (which were real).

I do think that the response to the terrorism may have been too great though. Yet that still does not excuse that the response to the financial situation was clearly too great.

Anyway if things go right for Shaman in the next election Obama will get more votes than Bush and beat him.
 
Your original story attempts to excuse the record setting borrowing that is currently underway by claiming it was done at very low rates. That is not really true....
I know.

That was your spin on the issue.

MY point was how difficult it'll be, to (even) TOUCH the Principal, with the size o' Interest Payments so large!!!!!

It's time to prematurely KILL BUSHCO's tax-cut$!!!!!!!!!!
 
I know.

That was your spin on the issue.

MY point was how difficult it'll be, to (even) TOUCH the Principal, with the size o' Interest Payments so large!!!!!

It's time to prematurely KILL BUSHCO's tax-cut$!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps you ought to be up in arms then with the current amount of borrowing the present administration is undertaking.

Bush spent, no one disputes that. However if you are upset over that, you ought to be furious at the amount we are spending now.
 
Perhaps you ought to be up in arms then with the current amount of borrowing the present administration is undertaking.

Bush spent, no one disputes that. However if you are upset over that, you ought to be furious at the amount we are spending now.
I'm pretty-certain Daddy Bush won't be able to cut-a-check (to cover Lil' Dumbya's excessive-spending), THIS time....more-than-likely why George Sr. & Babs handed-off all baby-sitting duties to the U.S. tax-payers; the Kid was outta-control!!

Not to worry.....The Obama Admin is on-the-job!!
 
Not renewing Bush's tax cuts will do little to correct the deficit. In fact, it will likely increase the deficit. Increasing taxes during a Recession/Depression is not smart. But hey the rich can always pay more right? Top 10% of earners pay 70% now.

BREAKING NEWS - Increasing taxes often results in less to Treasury. (for liberals only)
 
But hey the rich can always pay more right?
Uhhhhhhhhh....that's what THEY say!!!!!

:rolleyes:

BREAKING NEWS - Increasing taxes often results in less to Treasury. (for liberals only)

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"Not only was the entire national deficit eliminated after raising taxes on the wealthy in 1993http://www.kellysite.net/taxes.html, but the economy grew so fast for the remainder of the decade that many conservative economists thought that the Fed should raise the prime interest rate in order to slow it down."

You're not a History Major, are you?

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Wrong-O.

The deficit was eliminated by the R congress by limiting spending with your boy Bubba kicking and screaming (the only good thing Billybob did besides welfare reform which BO has now eliminated).

As I stated, raising taxes in a depression (the socialist medicine and cap & tax plans will only further bankrupt us) is not smart. If you think the economy of the 90s is similar to now and can withstand a large tax increase, I have a highway bridge I can sell you for cheap.

Going off shore means they want their taxes raised. Sure thing. One thing you have right is a big tax increase will result in more rich folks going off-shore or leaving altogether - which is the hope of the BO administration so the rest of us can become serfs.
 
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