How did life start ?

[the annoying thing]

Abiogenesis is magic, not the Biblical account of God's creation.


Even in defending abiogenesis, biologist Francis Crick acknowledged in 1981:

“An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would have had to be satisfied to get it going.” 13

Abiogenesis is not only unproven, it is mathematically impossible. No wonder both Orgel and Crick called it a miracle. Other scenarios have therefore been suggested. Hoyle and others postulate life was transplanted from outer space14 —which moves the origins problem to another time and place. The multiverse hypothesis, proposed by leading origin-of-life researcher Eugene Koonin,15 is currently in vogue—it replaces infinite time with an infinity of universes to account for the extraordinarily improbable existence of at least one life-sustaining planet (see here).

The real answer may be that abiogenesis is the creation myth of a culture with no need for God—a culture to which physicist Lee Smolin can proclaim: “there is nothing outside the universe.”16 This statement is an unsustainable myth, yet a creator is the only alternative to abiogenesis, and this undermines the mythological foundation of the faith of atheists.

The next article will continue this theme with a discussion of macroevolution, another critical part of the theory of evolution.

I find the multiverse theory very interesting

 

[mark francis]

Firstly, there are millions of republicans who do NOT believe in a god. Never believe that is unique to lefties but what is unique is brain dead republicans like you.
Secondly, the thought process developed with the evolution of the brain. I also suggest in your case it was never activated by evolution due to religion blocking neurological pathways.

How did evolution develop thought processes? Was it accidental? Was it designed or planned? Was it a chemical reaction? Should we expect in the future astounding new processes to develop by evolution, such as being able to read other people's thoughts?

Nobody has any evidence whatsoever that thinking was invented by some unexplained miraculous evolutionary process.

 

[mark francis]

when the dinos were wiped out by the meteorite it made it possible for mammals to take over as most lived underground and were very small and able to still find food .Other wise man kind may have never developed .

Nonsense.

 

[the annoying thing]

Nonsense.

That is part of the evolution theory mark if you would care to study it.
Others think were some type of alien experiment . And there are who knows how many different religious beliefs.

 

[Boris Norris]

How did evolution develop thought processes?

You can also ask how evolution designed the heart beating and your eyesight. By simply dismissing it while accepting other features is cherry picking ignorance.

Was it accidental? Was it designed or planned?

It was none of those but it's a feeble effort to suggest it was anything else. Because you dont understand doesn't make it impossible. One thing is certain, your silly god had no part.

Was it a chemical reaction?

I don't know. Do you?

Should we expect in the future astounding new processes to develop by evolution, such as being able to read other people's thoughts?

It's possible if you consider the advancements science has mad in 100 years. But if you are implying that any of it will need a god, that's very immature if you. He hasn't been sighted yet and never will be.

Nobody has any evidence whatsoever that thinking was invented by some unexplained miraculous evolutionary process.

What a ridiculous statement. You accept the fact you breathe etc and we know it came with evolution, so why wouldn't thinking evolve?

You continue to come here with ridiculous scenarios and not a shred of evidence to support other than your crippled opinion.
Evolution is a fact and has now been acknowledge even by the Vatican. It's about time you changed your mind and admitted to being wrong.

 

[Boris Norris]

Nonsense.

The asteroid that finished dinosaurs is a well established fact. There is no doubt we evolved from the remaining mammals.

The won't fit your beliefs but your beliefs are piffle. You're just another ignorant brain dead godbotherer who refuses to acknowledge the simple fundamentals.

But since it is all nonsense, let's assume it is, tell us how we all came to being and when. Please include your evidence to prove that.
Of course if you submit the same religious babble, leave the subject alone. We've heard it all before.

 

[mark francis]

You can also ask how evolution designed the heart beating and your eyesight. By simply dismissing it while accepting other features is cherry picking ignorance.

It was none of those but it's a feeble effort to suggest it was anything else. Because you dont understand doesn't make it impossible. One thing is certain, your silly god had no part.

I don't know. Do you?

It's possible if you consider the advancements science has mad in 100 years. But if you are implying that any of it will need a god, that's very immature if you. He hasn't been sighted yet and never will be.

What a ridiculous statement. You accept the fact you breathe etc and we know it came with evolution, so why wouldn't thinking evolve?

You continue to come here with ridiculous scenarios and not a shred of evidence to support other than your crippled opinion.
Evolution is a fact and has now been acknowledge even by the Vatican. It's about time you changed your mind and admitted to being wrong.

Evolution is a collection of assumptions backed by speculations, theories, guesses, and imaginations.

 

[Boris Norris]

Evolution is a collection of assumptions backed by speculations, theories, guesses, and imaginations.

And you can prove that???
I'll wait here.

Do you know the tenants of stars is within your body now? Of course not because you never read anything idiot.

 

[Boris Norris]

Evolution is a collection of assumptions backed by speculations, theories, guesses, and imaginations.

Come on big mouth. Where's the evidence.

 

[Boris Norris]

Evolution is a collection of assumptions backed by speculations, theories, guesses, and imaginations.

This will get up your nose.

The fool has said in his heart there is no god.
How many times have we heard that. The dumb remark circulates through most religious apologetics.
It can be assumed that non believers were around when some idiot wrote it.
I wonder what atheist refused to keep his mouth shut. Very brave indeed of him. He should be made a saint.

 

[mark francis]

And you can prove that???
I'll wait here.

Do you know the tenants of stars is within your body now? Of course not because you never read anything idiot.

Nobody should believe everything they read.

 

[mark francis]

Come on big mouth. Where's the evidence.

There are two inviolable principles of science that come to mind. Matter does not create itself and life does not emerge spontaneously from nonlife.

 

[Boris Norris]

Nobody should believe everything they read.

The hypocrisy of you ignorantly saying that.
You read the Bible and suddenly it's all fact.
You shouldn't believe anything in it. It's total rubbish but dumb arse godbotherers soak it up.

Give it up. You've never laid a glove on me with your religious dribble. You have no evidence of anything.

The fact about faith is that faith does not equate to fact. You can believe that.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

There are two inviolable principles of science that come to mind. Matter does not create itself and life does not emerge spontaneously from nonlife.

YOu cannot prove either of these.

You are not actually the one who decides what the principles of science are.

What is a "miracle"? It is generally defined as something that violates the laws of the physics.
Of course, we do not yet know all the laws of physics, so we cannot accurately call any event a miracle.

For life to occur, all that needs to happen is that some chemical compound develops the ability to reproduce itself, as a virus or an amoeba does. This is an occurrence so rare that so far it has not been replicated in a laboratory. But of course, there are many factors that occur in the natural world that are not possible to occur in a lab. Intense bombardment of all possible atomic and subatomic particles in every combination.

The probability of this occurring is FAR greater than the probability that the Earth was created by an eternal being who also felt it necessary to surround the Earth with a nearly infinite assortment of solar systems, galaxies, nebulae and dark matter.

 

[Boris Norris]

YOu cannot prove either of these.

You are not actually the one who decides what the principles of science are.

What is a "miracle"? It is generally defined as something that violates the laws of the physics.
Of course, we do not yet know all the laws of physics, so we cannot accurately call any event a miracle.

For life to occur, all that needs to happen is that some chemical compound develops the ability to reproduce itself, as a virus or an amoeba does. This is an occurrence so rare that so far it has not been replicated in a laboratory. But of course, there are many factors that occur in the natural world that are not possible to occur in a lab. Intense bombardment of all possible atomic and subatomic particles in every combination.

The probability of this occurring is FAR greater than the probability that the Earth was created by an eternal being who also felt it necessary to surround the Earth with a nearly infinite assortment of solar systems, galaxies, nebulae and dark matter.

All that aside, the chances of life starting as it did is billions to one.
Needless to see, it happened and here we are.
As for a god doing it, there's not a speck of evidence.