Has the republican party had a plan for anything in years?

When your party is driving America off the cliff its hard time to be on a political chat board.

Speaking as a Conservative after the model of Jefferson, when Republicans were in control did anything different occur?

Denigrate the "liberal" all you want, however, I have not seen any change in the Progressive advance under either party.
 
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When your party is driving America off the cliff

Really? Do tell.

Democrats want to raise taxes — but only on red states!

In today’s Wall Street Journal, they blow the lid off of a rather shocking proposal by Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., and four other members of New York’s House caucus:

One irony of the tax increase that arrives on January 1 is that the it will hit residents of high-income, Democratic-leaning states like California, Connecticut, New Jersey and New York the hardest. This is a problem for pro-tax Democrats.

Enter New York Representative Jerrold Nadler, who wants to exempt his own six-figure constituents from the tax hike he supports. Mr. Nadler’s bill would “require the IRS to adjust tax brackets proportionally in regions where the average cost of living is higher than the national average.”

In other words, the various tax brackets would apply to residents in certain regions at higher income levels versus other parts of the country. A family with an income of $50,000 or even $1 million in Manhattan would pay less federal income tax than a family with the same earnings in Omaha. The bill is called the Tax Equity Act, but a more accurate title would be the Blue State Tax Preference Act.

Round two....


Main Street may be about to get its own gigantic bailout. Rumors are running wild from Washington to Wall Street that the Obama administration is about to order government-controlled lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to forgive a portion of the mortgage debt of millions of Americans who owe more than what their homes are worth. An estimated 15 million U.S. mortgages – one in five – are underwater with negative equity of some $800 billion...http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/08/05/an-august-surprise-from-obama/

And we won't even get into the illegal alien situation, and how much you are paying for them, and how very much it's appreciated. Better hope Obam-ba doesn't make YOU jump off a cliff so someone who doesn't deserve it gets your portion of America.

You had better get to work. You get to bail out everyone! Your job is to build a cliff, then jump, and then pay for the cleanup.
 
Really? Do tell.



In today’s Wall Street Journal, they blow the lid off of a rather shocking proposal by Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., and four other members of New York’s House caucus:

One irony of the tax increase that arrives on January 1 is that the it will hit residents of high-income, Democratic-leaning states like California, Connecticut, New Jersey and New York the hardest. This is a problem for pro-tax Democrats.

Enter New York Representative Jerrold Nadler, who wants to exempt his own six-figure constituents from the tax hike he supports. Mr. Nadler’s bill would “require the IRS to adjust tax brackets proportionally in regions where the average cost of living is higher than the national average.”

In other words, the various tax brackets would apply to residents in certain regions at higher income levels versus other parts of the country. A family with an income of $50,000 or even $1 million in Manhattan would pay less federal income tax than a family with the same earnings in Omaha. The bill is called the Tax Equity Act, but a more accurate title would be the Blue State Tax Preference Act.

Round two....


Main Street may be about to get its own gigantic bailout. Rumors are running wild from Washington to Wall Street that the Obama administration is about to order government-controlled lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to forgive a portion of the mortgage debt of millions of Americans who owe more than what their homes are worth. An estimated 15 million U.S. mortgages – one in five – are underwater with negative equity of some $800 billion...http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/08/05/an-august-surprise-from-obama/

And we won't even get into the illegal alien situation, and how much you are paying for them, and how very much it's appreciated. Better hope Obam-ba doesn't make YOU jump off a cliff so someone who doesn't deserve it gets your portion of America.

You had better get to work. You get to bail out everyone! Your job is to build a cliff, then jump, and then pay for the cleanup.

Yes they did have a plan once upon a time. You see the Rep's lost there way when the Dem's came to power in 2006. But as you can see instead of standing up to the Dem's like they should have they instead let that party have it's way with this country and that gave us Tarp's 1 & 2. Not to mention Bush abandoned his fiscal conservative side and gave in to the Dem's demands. So yeah once upon time Rep's did have a plan but now they are trying to figure out how to tear down Obama instead of presenting something new. Tax cut's we've all seen before. But alas they want to beat that dead horse yet again. :)
 
So yeah once upon time Rep's did have a plan but now they are trying to figure out how to tear down Obama instead of presenting something new. Tax cut's we've all seen before. But alas they want to beat that dead horse yet again. :)

Speaking of beating a dead horse... Democrats have no new ideas or plans, they too have recycled the same old policies for over 100 years.

Unlike stimulus plans, subsidies, bailouts and massive public work projects that are funded by deficit spending, tax cuts actually stimulate economic growth and result in more revenue coming into the government.

When those Bush tax cuts expire and all those evil rich people are paying more in taxes, there will actually be less tax revenue flowing into government coffers... Just as there was less revenue prior to the tax cuts. Democrats know this. They know raising taxes doesn't result in greater tax revenue but actually results in less revenue with the drag it places on economic activity... they don't care... because to them... it's about "fairness"... it's not about trying to be fiscally responsible with the funding of the government.

 
Speaking of beating a dead horse... Democrats have no new ideas or plans, they too have recycled the same old policies for over 100 years.

Unlike stimulus plans, subsidies, bailouts and massive public work projects that are funded by deficit spending, tax cuts actually stimulate economic growth and result in more revenue coming into the government.

When those Bush tax cuts expire and all those evil rich people are paying more in taxes, there will actually be less tax revenue flowing into government coffers... Just as there was less revenue prior to the tax cuts. Democrats know this. They know raising taxes doesn't result in greater tax revenue but actually results in less revenue with the drag it places on economic activity... they don't care... because to them... it's about "fairness"... it's not about trying to be fiscally responsible with the funding of the government.


Your assuming that the rich would even invest to stimulate our economy. How can they when all we got was more regulation??? I mean if I got a tax cut I wouldn't do diddly squat with it since the government has made it harder for me to even invest. I'd let it sit in the bank. Which more then likely the top 2% will do. I don't blame them for it. Would you be upset if the top 2% got a tax cut and they didn't invest it back into the economy? You have to seriously ask yourself this question. The Dem's have failed time and time again just like the Rep's Neither party has an idea on how to fix this except do what they do best. Spend money and give out tax cuts....Like those are only two options.
 
I'd let it sit in the bank.
Even that is an investment... You put $1,000 in the bank and they turn around and issue a $10,000 line of credit with your money - that's how the partial reserve banking system works. The danger of that is when the person who took out the 10k loan defaults and it's your 1k backing his loan, suddenly you, and your bank, are running to the federal government for a bailout.
Neither party has an idea on how to fix this
There is one party that has it right...

The Libertarian Party: Working to slash your taxes!

The Libertarian Party is working every day to cut your taxes. By contrast, professional politicians from the other parties just want more of your money, and are busy increasing the size of government.

In the last few decades, the federal government has exploded in size. No area of your life or business is free from the meddling of politicians -- especially your wallet.

It doesn't have to be that way. With less government and lower taxes, you could keep more of what you earn. It would be easier to start new businesses, build new homes, and fuel stronger economic growth.
Just Defend Our Rights

Libertarians believe that if government's role were limited to protecting our lives, rights and property, then America would prosper and thrive as never before. Then the federal government could concentrate on protecting our Constitutional rights and defending us from foreign attack. A federal government that did only those two things, could do them better and at a small fraction of the cost.

How Can We Cut Taxes?

Instead of tending to the basics, government has grown into a bloated conglomerate of political services that gets larger every year -- with no end in sight.

For example, politicians spend millions of dollars to urge people not to smoke -- while spending more millions to subsidize tobacco farmers. They send billions overseas for foreign aid -- while the federal deficit swells. They spend millions to subsidize public art -- while working families struggle to pay their taxes.

Politicians also run trains, bail out savings and loans, construct houses, sell insurance, print books, and build basketball courts -- you name it! But the fact is, every service supplied by the government can be provided better and cheaper by private business.

Privatize And Cut Taxes

All over the world, governments are busy selling airlines, power plants, housing, and factories to private owners. Where inefficient government bureaucrats lost money and squandered tax dollars, hard-working private owners now make profits and create new jobs. Why can't we do the same thing in America?

Defend America: Cut Taxes

Military expenses are over $250 billion a year! A large percentage of this is spent overseas to defend wealthy countries like Germany and Japan -- who then wallop us in international trade. Let's take them off military welfare. We can defend America better and save at least $100 billion a year in taxes.

Stop Bailing Out Industry

No one has the right to cover his losses at taxpayer expense -- and yet wealthy corporations demand exactly that. The federal government has bailed out railroads, banks, and other corporations with your tax dollars. This must stop!

Replace Welfare: Cut Taxes

The bulk of your welfare tax dollars goes to pay the handsome salaries of well-educated welfare workers. The poor get little from government welfare except meager handouts and a cycle of despair. Let's get government out of the charity business. Private charities and groups do a better and more efficient job of helping the truly needy get back on their feet.

Why An Income Tax?

Before 1913, federal income taxes were rare and short-lived. America became the most prosperous nation on earth. The U.S. Government did not try to police the world or play "nanny" to everyone from cradle to grave. People took responsibility for themselves, their families, and their communities. That is how the founders of America thought it should be. And it worked. It can again!

It's Time For Action

Republican and Democratic politicians have refused to reduce the size or cost of government. So we need your help to build a powerful new political party to get the job done -- the Libertarian Party!
 
Even that is an investment... You put $1,000 in the bank and they turn around and issue a $10,000 line of credit with your money - that's how the partial reserve banking system works. The danger of that is when the person who took out the 10k loan defaults and it's your 1k backing his loan, suddenly you, and your bank, are running to the federal government for a bailout.

There is one party that has it right...



I forgot about the Libertarian's. :rolleyes: My bad.
 
Gen. Look Libertarians get laughed at by Conservatives. I mean if you want an example just look at Ron Paul. He's constantly being ridiculed by Con's like Hannity, Limbaugh and on occasion Beck. Don't let me get started on what Savage thinks of the man. The fact of the matter is that Libertarians are seen as freak's by the right. As for the left....well who really cares what they think. The fact of the matter is that we need a strong third party. I wish the Tea Party would step up but they didn't. Republicans have infiltrated and hijacked that movement to the point where they won't even considered themselves a third party. I mean why should they? They would need the Republicans permissions to do that. The Tea Party lost my support the minute they declined to become a third party. Instead they sold out to the Republicans. Seems that selling out in this country is the thing to do now a days.
 
Gen. Look Libertarians get laughed at by Conservatives. I mean if you want an example just look at Ron Paul. He's constantly being ridiculed by Con's like Hannity, Limbaugh and on occasion Beck. Don't let me get started on what Savage thinks of the man. The fact of the matter is that Libertarians are seen as freak's by the right. As for the left....well who really cares what they think. The fact of the matter is that we need a strong third party. I wish the Tea Party would step up but they didn't. Republicans have infiltrated and hijacked that movement to the point where they won't even considered themselves a third party. I mean why should they? They would need the Republicans permissions to do that. The Tea Party lost my support the minute they declined to become a third party. Instead they sold out to the Republicans. Seems that selling out in this country is the thing to do now a days.

The tea party was never anything more then a Republican wing...bought and paid for by republicans...it would be like the left saying Move on should be a third party....
 
It's clear why you would believe such nonsense, the Tea Party stands for 3 core values:

Free Markets

Limited Government

Fiscal Responsibility

...And Democrats would certainly never support these concepts.

Lots of democrats support those three ideas, its just the leaders in the party that do not support it. Some leaders in the republican party do not support it either.

I forget the exact numbers but the tea party has all types, republicans democrats, constitutionalists, independents. about the only group it doesn't have at least some of is liberals, communists, socialists and perhaps green party.
 
Lots of democrats support those three ideas, its just the leaders in the party that do not support it. Some leaders in the republican party do not support it either.

Very true... I made a disclaimer on my introduction post that when I mention Democrat (or Republican) I'm referrencing the party and it's leadership unless otherwise specified... But I should be more specific in my statements.
 
Very true... I made a disclaimer on my introduction post that when I mention Democrat (or Republican) I'm referrencing the party and it's leadership unless otherwise specified... But I should be more specific in my statements.

I didn't read the disclaimer :) But I already knew you knew how diverse the tea party was, I just added that in for others who only know about the tea party from what they hear on MSNBC :)
 
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The Rs do have a plan to "destroy Social Security." So says our president.

Who believes this? Pockets? THC1? Anyone???????

Obama claims GOP trying to destroy Social Security
Published: Saturday, 14 Aug 2010 | 9:35 AM ET


WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama used the anniversary of Social Security to trumpet Democrats' support for the popular program and accuse Republicans of trying to destroy it.

Seventy-five years after President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed Social Security into law, Obama said in his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday: "We have an obligation to keep that promise, to safeguard Social Security for our seniors, people with disabilities and all Americans — today, tomorrow and forever."
http://www.cnbc.com/id/38702607
 
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