China Assured Spanky Trump Was An Anti-American Aberration

[pjmret]

No. Trump had been cooperating with NARA for months before the FBI opened an investigation without warning on March 30, 2022, just weeks after Trump filed a lawsuit against Hillary for her part in the failed and false Trump/Russian collusion conspiracy theory for which Trump still had government documents proving her guilt. The raid was not to get documents NARA had already asked for but to get any and all documents that Trump could use against Hillary in his lawsuit against her.

wrong. which is why nara issued the statement I posted, moron. lol

 

[pjmret]

Trump was indicted by a grand jury composed of citizens ignorant of the law persuaded by crooked prosecutors twisting and perverting the law.

you'll have to prove that.
but you wont
because you are a lying fake christian moron

 

[pjmret]

No. Trump had been cooperating with NARA for months before the FBI opened an investigation without warning on March 30, 2022, just weeks after Trump filed a lawsuit against Hillary for her part in the failed and false Trump/Russian collusion conspiracy theory for which Trump still had government documents proving her guilt. The raid was not to get documents NARA had already asked for but to get any and all documents that Trump could use against Hillary in his lawsuit against her.

• Trump was warned in late 2021 by his former White House lawyer that it was unlawful to retain the documents, especially classified information;
• Trump personally sorted through the documents in late 2021;
• Trump’s personal knowledge and possession, access, and control of the documents is indicated by the quantity, content, and location of documents with classified markings (including intermingled with personal belongings) and by his admissions on Truth Social;
• Trump repeatedly stated privately that the documents were his to possess and he was not willing to deliver them to the government;
• Trump aides repeatedly tried to get him to return the documents to the government;
• Trump was repeatedly put on notice by Archives and Justice Department that his retention of the documents was unlawful and a potential threat to national security;
• Trump was apparently involved in obstructive acts of trying to conceal documents from the government after receiving a subpoena.

no, trump was obstructing, not cooperating. lol

 

[pjmret]

The opinions of bystanders lose all value when compared to court rulings. NARA had no right to tell Trump what records he could keep or not keep, according to Judge Amy Jackson.

“NARA does not have the authority to designate materials as ‘Presidential records,’” Judge Jackson wrote in 2012. “NARA does not have the tapes in question, and NARA lacks any right, duty, or means to seize control of them.”

good thing this isn't about a nara violation alone, moron.

espionage act, moron. lol

did you even read the indictment? or do you intentionally want to act like a moron. lol

 

[pjmret]

The opinions of bystanders lose all value when compared to court rulings. NARA had no right to tell Trump what records he could keep or not keep, according to Judge Amy Jackson.

“NARA does not have the authority to designate materials as ‘Presidential records,’” Judge Jackson wrote in 2012. “NARA does not have the tapes in question, and NARA lacks any right, duty, or means to seize control of them.”

“The definition of ‘personal records’ is narrow, clear, and functional: it includes only records of a ‘purely private or nonpublic character’,” Peter Margulies, a professor at Roger Williams University’s School of Law in Bristol, Rhode Island, wrote in an email. “Any record that touches on information relevant to presidential decisions on foreign policy or national security is a presidential record. Period, end of story.”

Josh Chafetz, a professor at Georgetown Law, agreed, saying there’s “simply no way” the records described in the indictment against Trump could be considered “personal” under the act’s definitions.

Among the documents found at Mar-a-Lago were ones marked “SECRET” or “TOP SECRET.” The documents included details about the country’s nuclear weapons and the nuclear capabilities and military activities of other countries. Prosecutors allege, for example, that Trump showed off a classified map of a foreign country while discussing a military operation.

“There is no way to read that statutory language as giving the president ‘discretion’ to categorize military plans, to take just one example, as ‘personal’,” Chafetz wrote in an email.


trump is a moron if he thinks his documents are "personal records", lol, and so are you.

 

[pjmret]

The opinions of bystanders lose all value when compared to court rulings. NARA had no right to tell Trump what records he could keep or not keep, according to Judge Amy Jackson.

“NARA does not have the authority to designate materials as ‘Presidential records,’” Judge Jackson wrote in 2012. “NARA does not have the tapes in question, and NARA lacks any right, duty, or means to seize control of them.”

David Super, another professor at Georgetown Law, argues the 2012 Clinton case has “absolutely nothing to do with” the charges Trump currently faces.

For one thing, the court didn’t dismiss the case because it found that Clinton was entitled to keep the tapes, Super said. Jackson simply ruled that NARA could not turn over the tapes as public records because they were owned by the historian and not government property.

Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign didn’t respond to an email seeking comment, but the Republican and his allies have argued that the judge’s ruling in the case showed that the Presidential Records Act affords presidents complete discretion to delineate between personal and presidential records.

Legal experts this week also dismissed those arguments. Margulies, of Roger Williams University, said the claim “mixes apples and oranges.”


i'll trust legal experts over morons like you. lol

 

[pjmret]

The opinions of bystanders lose all value when compared to court rulings. NARA had no right to tell Trump what records he could keep or not keep, according to Judge Amy Jackson.

“NARA does not have the authority to designate materials as ‘Presidential records,’” Judge Jackson wrote in 2012. “NARA does not have the tapes in question, and NARA lacks any right, duty, or means to seize control of them.”

Eric Freedman, a professor at Hofstra University’s School of Law in Hempstead, New York, also noted that a federal appeals court has already rejected similar arguments raised by Trump’s legal team as it sought to block the criminal investigation into the records found at Mar-a-Lago.

In either case, Super said, any discussion about the Presidential Records Act is “largely a red herring” because Trump doesn’t face charges of violating that law.

The indictment instead charges Trump with Espionage Act violations, as prosecutors argue the documents he kept could harm the country if obtained by adversaries.


feel free to keep whining about nara, moron. lol

 

[mark francis]

“The definition of ‘personal records’ is narrow, clear, and functional: it includes only records of a ‘purely private or nonpublic character’,” Peter Margulies, a professor at Roger Williams University’s School of Law in Bristol, Rhode Island, wrote in an email. “Any record that touches on information relevant to presidential decisions on foreign policy or national security is a presidential record. Period, end of story.”

Josh Chafetz, a professor at Georgetown Law, agreed, saying there’s “simply no way” the records described in the indictment against Trump could be considered “personal” under the act’s definitions.

Among the documents found at Mar-a-Lago were ones marked “SECRET” or “TOP SECRET.” The documents included details about the country’s nuclear weapons and the nuclear capabilities and military activities of other countries. Prosecutors allege, for example, that Trump showed off a classified map of a foreign country while discussing a military operation.

“There is no way to read that statutory language as giving the president ‘discretion’ to categorize military plans, to take just one example, as ‘personal’,” Chafetz wrote in an email.


trump is a moron if he thinks his documents are "personal records", lol, and so are you.

Nobody you quoted overturned Judge Jackson's ruling:

“NARA does not have the authority to designate materials as ‘Presidential records,’” Judge Jackson wrote in 2012. “NARA does not have the tapes in question, and NARA lacks any right, duty, or means to seize control of them.”

Furthermore, the search warrant did not list which specific documents the FBO or NARA were looking for, proving it was a fishing expedition, not a legitimate search. The FBI seized material illegally and that was a clear violation of Trump's rights, so typical of Democrat attacks on President Trump for more than 6 years.

Trump filed suit against Hillary for slandering him with the fake Trump/Russian collusion conspiracy theory and one week later Biden's DOJ opened an investigation into documents in Trump's possession, several of which no doubt had direct evidence of Hillary's involvement in the criminal slander case.

 

[pjmret]

Nobody you quoted overturned Judge Jackson's ruling:

“NARA does not have the authority to designate materials as ‘Presidential records,’” Judge Jackson wrote in 2012. “NARA does not have the tapes in question, and NARA lacks any right, duty, or means to seize control of them.”

Furthermore, the search warrant did not list which specific documents the FBO or NARA were looking for, proving it was a fishing expedition, not a legitimate search. The FBI seized material illegally and that was a clear violation of Trump's rights, so typical of Democrat attacks on President Trump for more than 6 years.

Trump filed suit against Hillary for slandering him with the fake Trump/Russian collusion conspiracy theory and one week later Biden's DOJ opened an investigation into documents in Trump's possession, several of which no doubt had direct evidence of Hillary's involvement in the criminal slander case.

you're a moron. the indictment had nothing to do with nara, moron. lol.

it was about the espionage act.

read the indictment if you don't want to look like a moron again

 

[mark francis]

David Super, another professor at Georgetown Law, argues the 2012 Clinton case has “absolutely nothing to do with” the charges Trump currently faces.

How does he know? The details of the case are supposed to be secret.

For one thing, the court didn’t dismiss the case because it found that Clinton was entitled to keep the tapes, Super said. Jackson simply ruled that NARA could not turn over the tapes as public records because they were owned by the historian and not government property.

Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign didn’t respond to an email seeking comment, but the Republican and his allies have argued that the judge’s ruling in the case showed that the Presidential Records Act affords presidents complete discretion to delineate between personal and presidential records.

Legal experts this week also dismissed those arguments. Margulies, of Roger Williams University, said the claim “mixes apples and oranges.”

i'll trust legal experts over morons like you. lol

I do not believe leftists make good arguments for refuting Judge Jackson's ruling.

 

[mark francis]

Eric Freedman, a professor at Hofstra University’s School of Law in Hempstead, New York, also noted that a federal appeals court has already rejected similar arguments raised by Trump’s legal team as it sought to block the criminal investigation into the records found at Mar-a-Lago.

In either case, Super said, any discussion about the Presidential Records Act is “largely a red herring” because Trump doesn’t face charges of violating that law.

The indictment instead charges Trump with Espionage Act violations, as prosecutors argue the documents he kept could harm the country if obtained by adversaries.


feel free to keep whining about nara, moron. lol

I am not surprised the Democrats are attempting to charge Trump with espionage for keeping records when nobody else in US history has ever been charged with espionage for doing the same thing, and many current and former officials have done the same thing and were never charged with a crime.

 

[pjmret]

I am not surprised the Democrats are attempting to charge Trump with espionage for keeping records when nobody else in US history has ever been charged with espionage for doing the same thing, and many current and former officials have done the same thing and were never charged with a crime.

i'm not surprised either that they are charging him with the law he broke.

"someone else did it too!" isn't a legal defense, moron. lol

 

[pjmret]

How does he know? The details of the case are supposed to be secret.

I do not believe leftists make good arguments for refuting Judge Jackson's ruling.

her ruling has nothing to do with this case, moron.
god you're stupid. lol

 

[mark francis]

you're a moron. the indictment had nothing to do with nara, moron. lol.

it was about the espionage act.

read the indictment if you don't want to look like a moron again

Charging Trump with espionage while not charging Hillary of Joe Biden for doing the same thing is not only stupid but glaringly corrupt and partisan.

 

[pjmret]

Charging Trump with espionage while not charging Hillary of Joe Biden for doing the same thing is not only stupid but glaringly corrupt and partisan.

so explain how either did the exact same thing as biden did, moron. lol

explain how they fought for 2 years to keep classified documents and required a subpoena and a raid to get them back.

but you can't
because you are a right wing moron. lol