Then why are you unable to make a case for using force to redistribute wealth as being; ethical, moral, noble, justified, compassionate?
That is Collectivism's most basic precept.
I don't think your health care should be tied to your income and jobs status...
What about housing, food, clothing and everything else?
The reality that you refuse to accept is that need will always outweigh ability. Every nation that has tried to evade that reality has failed.
Feel free to move to the nation on earth that does not collect taxes to help those in need...
That would be a veritable Shangri La compared to your nightmare utopia of a welfare state that steamrolls over its victims rights in the name of the common good.
But you cry about your poor taxes...
Unlike you, I am a consistent defender of our individual rights. On one hand, you complain about your rights being violated to provide you with physical security, on the other hand, you beg the government to violate your rights to provide you with economic and health security.
while you pay more money for health care then any industrial nation on earth, and so many in our nation have none..
We pay more than any other industrialized nation for education too, clearly we're not getting our money's worth.
I find our system Immoral,
The current system? So do I, but certainly for different reasons.
but maybe the only way to get you to care is, to make you think you can save a buck.
No attempt has ever been made to convince me that government run health care can save money. I've had plenty of people, like yourself, accuse me of being selfish and uncaring, people use ad hominems, guilt-filled emotional appeals, logical fallacies galore, but not a single one of you has even attempted to explain why we should trade our rights for security.
as for how much of a percent of my income I donate ? I have no idea..I don't keep track,
How about the percentage of taxes you currently pay? How high can government raise that percentage before you would complain?
I can't come up with the 10s of thousands of dollars needed for the experimental surgery she had that could have saved her life...
This goes to what I was saying earlier in the post: Need will always outweigh ability - always. The more you take to fill people's needs, the greater the needs of the people will grow. Until you recognize and accept this reality, you will continue to believe that sanctioning government to violate individual rights is not only practical but ethical, moral, noble, justified and compassionate.