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Far from a "fringe" opinion. Many supposedly reasonable people have publically suggested that we need to be more aggressive in Iraq. That we shouldn't be so concerned about civilian casualties. Are you going to pretend that you haven't heard plenty of people say we should just "nuke" countries that we think support terrorism? Oh and by the way. If this country appears to lack "moral credibility", on what basis do we lead? Military and economic power alone doesn't inspire anyone to follow us. American credibility in the world is at it's lowest ebb since Vietnam.