The queen of idiots blames Harris for loss

[Gabriel_Bell]

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Trump supports traditional American views, values, rights and liberties while democrats are more interested in fundamentally transforming America to be more like atheistic socialist communist nations.

Traditional American values do NOT consist of the top five percent of the population owning half the wealth of our country.
Socialism and communism are quite different.

Communism favors a Dictatorship of the Proletariat, which means that the means of production (factories, utilities, processing plants) belong to the state and are run by cooperatives elected by the workers from their ranks. Full employment is a major goal. Once people get used to this arrangement, the central administration will no longer be required and it will wither away. It depends on changing human nature.

Democratic Socialism involves the government being elected in free and fair election and then those elected decide with consultation from their constituents about which arrangements of industries should be under government control and which should be privately owned and controls. Typically, natural monopolies such as utilities (water, electricity, heating oil and gas, mail delivery, libraries, telephones and internet are administered by governments, ideally local ones. The goal is for the benefits of industries to be equitably distributed among the citizens rather than to allow a handful of old men to hoard half or more of the resources.

Religion is to be separated from the state and all sects are allowed with the understanding that they must never attempt to dominate the government or one another.

Capitalism is not a system of government, it is a technique to amass capital from multiple sources with limited liability. If it is allowed to dominate a society, it causes the wealth to be concentrated in a few individuals. There is no country in which a majority of the population are actual real capitalists, that is, where each person lives off the profits of his/her investments. Most Americans are NOT capitalists and do not understand how the stock markets function.

Under capitalism, food is not produced to feed people. It is produced to make a profit. When it is not profitable to feed people, they are allowed to go hungry or to get by on the surplus agricultural products. In the US corn and corn products are fed to the poor, resulting in obesity diabetes and such.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

In a capitalist dominated system, poverty exists, not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich. They do not consider any year to be a success unless profits have increased. Growth is seen as an absolute necessity.

When some products are not adequately profitable, the market limits the production, scarcity is manufactured. The best example of this is the diamond industry, but oil is also handled in this way when the producers can be convinced to cooperate rather than compete.

 

[Randomguy]

In a capitalist dominated system, poverty exists, not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich. They do not consider any year to be a success unless profits have increased. Growth is seen as an absolute necessity.

When some products are not adequately profitable, the market limits the production, scarcity is manufactured. The best example of this is the diamond industry, but oil is also handled in this way when the producers can be convinced to cooperate rather than compete.

I will add to it that in order to have super rich people we have to have many many more super poor people. There is an economic theory called “positional goods” which roughly states that the value of a good to some increases as fewer and fewer people have access to it. So it is not enough that the super rich have say luxury yachts. If for some reason yachts become affordable and many more would have it, all of sudden they become less satisfactory to the super rich.

Humans are the only animal who revels in other people misery and also are so cruel to their fellow human beings.

 

[mark francis]

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Traditional American values do NOT consist of the top five percent of the population owning half the wealth of our country.
Socialism and communism are quite different.

Greedy sinners have a long history of coveting the riches of others. They cannot stop lusting after the property and wealth of others instead of just being content with what they have and can obtain for themselves without envying what others have.

Communism favors a Dictatorship of the Proletariat, which means that the means of production (factories, utilities, processing plants) belong to the state and are run by cooperatives elected by the workers from their ranks. Full employment is a major goal. Once people get used to this arrangement, the central administration will no longer be required and it will wither away. It depends on changing human nature.

That is one of the biggest and stupidest lies ever invented by sinners who are not thankfulm to God for His benefits. Once commie leaders seize power they inevitably brutalize the citizens under their fascist dominance while getting filth rich by plundering the riches of the nation.

 

[mark francis]

Democratic Socialism involves the government being elected in free and fair election and then those elected decide with consultation from their constituents about which arrangements of industries should be under government control and which should be privately owned and controls. Typically, natural monopolies such as utilities (water, electricity, heating oil and gas, mail delivery, libraries, telephones and internet are administered by governments, ideally local ones. The goal is for the benefits of industries to be equitably distributed among the citizens rather than to allow a handful of old men to hoard half or more of the resources.

The fundamentally transformed democrat version of capitalism is called stakeholder capitalism currently being promoted by one worlders at the WEF. Stakehold capitalism is fascist government control of every aspect of a business to ensure those businesses fully conform to every regulation imposed by the fascists in charge of the democrat mob. That is not freedom but slavery to fascist Marxist oligarchs overseeing the majority atheist leftist mob.

Religion is to be separated from the state and all sects are allowed with the understanding that they must never attempt to dominate the government or one another.

Democrats have perverted the Constitution to mean leftists should outlaw Christianity in public instead of what the Constitution does forbid which is all efforts by politicians and civilians to abridge the unfettered rights of Christians to freely exercise their religious beliefs in public.

Capitalism is not a system of government, it is a technique to amass capital from multiple sources with limited liability. If it is allowed to dominate a society, it causes the wealth to be concentrated in a few individuals. There is no country in which a majority of the population are actual real capitalists, that is, where each person lives off the profits of his/her investments. Most Americans are NOT capitalists and do not understand how the stock markets function.

Stupidazzes are unaware that suppression of free market capitalism is what is making 3rd world nations dirt poor. If there are no incentives for businesspeople to invest in businesses in an area then there are no businesses in that area. Greedy bums think if businessmen get rich building businesses then those businessmen are corrupt and need to be hogtied to stop them from making so much money.

Under capitalism, food is not produced to feed people. It is produced to make a profit. When it is not profitable to feed people, they are allowed to go hungry or to get by on the surplus agricultural products. In the US corn and corn products are fed to the poor, resulting in obesity diabetes and such.

Dirt poor people don't give a d**n about whether food markets make people rich as long as those food markets keep the food shelves full. Marxism clamps down on profitmaking and the result is empty store shelves.

 

[mark francis]

In a capitalist dominated system, poverty exists, not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich. They do not consider any year to be a success unless profits have increased. Growth is seen as an absolute necessity.

When some products are not adequately profitable, the market limits the production, scarcity is manufactured. The best example of this is the diamond industry, but oil is also handled in this way when the producers can be convinced to cooperate rather than compete.

The ignorant and lazy mistakenly think that when investors get rich the poor get hurt. The truth is that when investors are effectively disincentivized from investing the whole economy is hurt and the poor are hurt the worst.

 

[mark francis]

I will add to it that in order to have super rich people we have to have many many more super poor people. There is an economic theory called “positional goods” which roughly states that the value of a good to some increases as fewer and fewer people have access to it. So it is not enough that the super rich have say luxury yachts. If for some reason yachts become affordable and many more would have it, all of sudden they become less satisfactory to the super rich.

Humans are the only animal who revels in other people misery and also are so cruel to their fellow human beings.

The poor are not poor because the rich are rich. That sort of stupidity is ruining struggling free economies the world over.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

The poor are poor because the society does not provide them with an opportunity to succeed. The percentage of poor people is higher in the USA than in Western Europe.

Obama was not a socialist and the government during Obama was in no way similar to that of the USSR. Of course, you know nothing about either.

The poor have become more poor because of actions of the rich.
Tax breaks are given to rich corporate executives and they use that money to fund stock buybacks, which increase the value of stocks they own. The increase in value is held for a year and it becomes a capital gain, which is taxed at a lower rate.

One year ago, stock in WalMart (WMT) was $51.56. Today it is 90.49, a gain of 74.19%
One year ago, stock in Kellova (K) -Kelloggs- was $51.56, Today it is 81.02, a gain of 53.39%

The poor pay higher prices when they purchase Kelloggs Corn Flakes. They pay more when they shop at WalMart. It is every bit as time consuming to check out at WalMart as it was last year.

I know this because I am a CAPITALIST and I invest my money on the theory that since I cannot beat them, I must join them.
You are a simpleton that does not have a clue about what capitalism, socialism, or communism works, all you do is bitch about how poor Shitshizpants is such a pitiful victim.

 

[Randomguy]

Greedy sinners have a long history of coveting the riches of others. They cannot stop lusting after the property and wealth of others instead of just being content with what they have and can obtain for themselves without envying what others have.

Yer describing trump to a tee.

That is one of the biggest and stupidest lies ever invented by sinners who are not thankfulm to God for His benefits. Once commie leaders seize power they inevitably brutalize the citizens under their fascist dominance while getting filth rich by plundering the riches of the nation.

Again yer describing trump wrt fascism.

 

[Randomguy]

The poor are not poor because the rich are rich. That sort of stupidity is ruining struggling free economies the world over.

I did not quite say that. I said the super rich take advantage of the poor and the middle class in order to get even richer.

 

[mark francis]

The poor are poor because the society does not provide them with an opportunity to succeed. The percentage of poor people is higher in the USA than in Western Europe.

Society cannot make poor people rich without robbing from others to redistribute to the poor, but if rich people are made poor so that poor people can be made rich who then is the greedy and evil one?

Obama was not a socialist and the government during Obama was in no way similar to that of the USSR. Of course, you know nothing about either.

Obama was a statist who acted as if he was supreme ruler of all that he surveyed. Since he thought coal should be shut down, he shut down coal companise by the dozens.

The poor have become more poor because of actions of the rich.

That is ridiculous. You cannot prove that nonsense because it is not true. What have the rich done to make people poor (except for what rich politicians have done to make themselves rich by selling out to crooks buying the opportunities to rob the poor?)

Tax breaks are given to rich corporate executives and they use that money to fund stock buybacks, which increase the value of stocks they own. The increase in value is held for a year and it becomes a capital gain, which is taxed at a lower rate.

Democrats sometimes give tax breaks to Americans as needed, just as JFK lowered economy-throttling excessive taxes in his day. When Trump lowered taxes for everyone the benefits were shared by everyone.

One year ago, stock in WalMart (WMT) was $51.56. Today it is 90.49, a gain of 74.19%
One year ago, stock in Kellova (K) -Kelloggs- was $51.56, Today it is 81.02, a gain of 53.39%

So? Do rising stock prices make poor people poorer or are some disgruntled poor people just jealous that they do not have the money to invest in stocks?

The poor pay higher prices when they purchase Kelloggs Corn Flakes. They pay more when they shop at WalMart. It is every bit as time consuming to check out at WalMart as it was last year.

Americans should be aware by now that the massive spending increases of the last 4 or 5 years have translated into much higher prices for everyone. Thankfully, Trump has lined up experts to cut government spending and that should lower inflation and costs for everyone.

I know this because I am a CAPITALIST and I invest my money on the theory that since I cannot beat them, I must join them.
You are a simpleton that does not have a clue about what capitalism, socialism, or communism works, all you do is bitch about how poor Shitshizpants is such a pitiful victim.

 

[mark francis]

Yer describing trump to a tee.

Is Trump envying others for their wealth? Hopefully he is not cooking up some hairbrained scheme to transfer the wealth of his political enemies to his friends like so many wicked politicians around the world commonly do. If Trump is lusting after other people's wealth then he got his just deserts when democrats unjustly robbed him of millions by cooking up a phony crime before a corrupt judge and stupid biased jury as an excuse to rob him blind.

Again yer describing trump wrt fascism.

 

[mark francis]

I did not quite say that. I said the super rich take advantage of the poor and the middle class in order to get even richer.

Let God judge the wicked rich but don't fall victim to the devil's trap of envying the wicked for their riches. Let them be greedy. They are unlikely to hurt you by getting rich for themselves.

 

[Randomguy]

Society cannot make poor people rich without robbing from others to redistribute to the poor, but if rich people are made poor so that poor people can be made rich who then is the greedy and evil one?

To you it is redistribute. To most fair-minded people it is to have fair and just distribution.

 

[Randomguy]

Is Trump envying others for their wealth? Hopefully he is not cooking up some hairbrained scheme to transfer the wealth of his political enemies to his friends like so many wicked politicians around the world commonly do. If Trump is lusting after other people's wealth then he got his just deserts when democrats unjustly robbed him of millions by cooking up a phony crime before a corrupt judge and stupid biased jury as an excuse to rob him blind.

That is EXACTLY what Trump has already done and will continue doing if he is allowed.