Hundreds of people come to the US from Canada every year, for treatment because their socialized system doesn't work. It's one story of thousands. The point was to illustrate the problem. First I can't list every story because I do not know all of them. Second, even if I did know all of them, to post them all would get me banned for spamming them across this forum.
Why is it you are so willing to assume that this clear cut case is just an anomaly? I can detail similar examples from across the planet. Did you know in the UK patients just 'expect' to wait a year to get just 'admitted' to the hospital? Just to be admitted! It's so normal for them to wait forever, they expect it! In the US, if people wait a few hours to get a hospital room, they think it's outrageous! In switzerland, people wait up to two years just to get a hip replacement surgery!
It's not just one example. There are thousands of them. It's not even one country, it's nearly every country I have ever investigated for socialized medicine. Bottom line... it... does... not... work. No worky! Bad system.
There's only two systems in the world. System A: you pay for service. System B: government pays for service, which they still make you pay it in taxes, and a lot more in taxes than you would if you just paid it yourself.
So if not Canada, whom would you copy? It's either capitalism or socialism.
Funny, but the *patients* who have used both the US system and the Canadian system, say the opposite. In fact, one of the biggest complaints is, you are treated inhuman in the Canadian system. Now... maybe the student prefer the Canadian system... but patients do not.
Patients who go to Canada are appalled by how they are treated like no more than a number. A product to be shipped in, fixed, and shipped out. Patients routinely complain they have little time to actually talk with the doctor. He's in, whips out a prognosis, and poof, off to the next patient.
Patients who come to the US are shocked at how nice everyone is, how they treated well, and how they can talk with the doctor in depth.
Why? Because in Canada, you are not a customer, your a number. The hospital has no reason to make you happy. They get paid for the NUMBER of people they treat, not how well, or how happy they are, or how they are treated. In the US, you are a customer. If you are not happy, you'll spend your money at a different hospital, and they know this. So they try and please you and treat you well.
Also, because doctors are paid per patient visit, and since the government pays so little, they have to make up for that with volume. Volume means more people faster, so they pack in 20 patients a day.
See you are looking at it from the wrong angle. If a student likes the system, that doesn't mean it's good. It's when I can go to the ER and get served and not be sitting in pain for hours or even days, and get good quality service. Yes it's expensive, but at least I get it. And for as expensive as it is, it is still cheaper than the taxes required for these socialized systems.
So which is better:
Socialism: Getting sick, and waiting a YEAR to be admitted to a hospital.
Capitalism: Getting sick, and being helped and cared for immediately, but have to pay for it?
I choose B.
The value of the dollar and this issue, are not connected. Moving on.
What you just said was based on nothing. I base my information on data and research. Social-ism always fails. It always does. Every single time. If you can show ONE TIME, that it did not fail... feel free! I'd love to hear it.
If I could show any evidence at all, anywhere at anytime, that socialized health care worked... I'd be for it! Who wouldn't? Free health care? And I pay nothing? Sweet! But... it's not true.
You claim this and that, but have zero evidence to support it. Yet I have clear conclusive evidence to support my views, yet you want to claim I'm irrational? Don't make me laugh.
No American dream? Have you heard of Dave Thomas? The story behind Snapple? The story being Google? The story of Napster? Apple computer? HP? Did you ever watch the movie "Pursuit of Happiness"? Rush Limbaugh? Alex Spanos? Dave Ramsey? There are millions of America success stories. If you think the American dream is over, your socialist medical care failed to check your eyes.
I do agree we are in debt. The problem is, the government is spending too much. Paying for socialized medicine is not going to reduce federal cost, so I don't see a point. That like saying 'the reason people are broke is because they haven't spent enough'. Try making a real point.
Blaw blaw China blaw blaw war blaw blaw mass slaughter (and other unsupportable conspiracy theories) blaw....
These issues are not connected and you have been proven wrong on so many of these cheeze conspiracy, montana tin foil covered shack theories, why do you keep repeating them? Do you think a lie becomes true if you say it enough?
