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That people are killing in the name of other religions, and God does nothing about it.

Well for one I don't believe anyone is a prophet from God unless they prove it to me, not the people around them 2,000 years ago. Secondly, the validity of what he said is definetly questionable as the Bible has been translated and tampered with for the last 2,000 years.

I don't believe he is the son of God. I have never seen solid proof he is, or that God even exists. I don't believe he even said or did a lot of things he was said to have done. Have you watched zeitgeist. I found it fascinating. Give me some solid proof that Jesus is any different from every other prophet and that he can do what he said he can do and is where he said he was from or otherwise admit that your belief is pretty irrational.

One's religion doesn't affect the logical processes of reason - THAT'S THE POINT.

The presence of God, or Jesus definetly being the son of God are both definetly not self evident. I don't need anyone to tell me anything, I need to see something so important with my own eyes. At least some solid proof apart from what people spout out of their mouth.

No I'm not. If someone came up to you and told you you were going to die tomorrow, would you believe it, just because some told you it but had no solid proof. Doubt you would.

Excuse me but I'm not the one who believes in demons, angels, places outside of this earth, an almighty, all powerful, all loving, all knowing but still utterly useless God just because someone else told me it to be the truth with no proof.[/QUOTE]

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<blockquote data-quote="9sublime" data-source="post: 20001" data-attributes="member: 285">That people are killing in the name of other religions, and God does nothing about it.Well for one I don&#039;t believe anyone is a prophet from God unless they prove it to me, not the people around them 2,000 years ago. Secondly, the validity of what he said is definetly questionable as the Bible has been translated and tampered with for the last 2,000 years. I don&#039;t believe he is the son of God. I have never seen solid proof he is, or that God even exists. I don&#039;t believe he even said or did a lot of things he was said to have done. Have you watched zeitgeist. I found it fascinating. Give me some solid proof that Jesus is any different from every other prophet and that he can do what he said he can do and is where he said he was from or otherwise admit that your belief is pretty irrational.One&#039;s religion doesn&#039;t affect the logical processes of reason - THAT&#039;S THE POINT.</blockquote>The presence of God, or Jesus definetly being the son of God are both definetly not self evident. I don&#039;t need anyone to tell me anything, I need to see something so important with my own eyes. At least some solid proof apart from what people spout out of their mouth.No I&#039;m not. If someone came up to you and told you you were going to die tomorrow, would you believe it, just because some told you it but had no solid proof. Doubt you would.Excuse me but I&#039;m not the one who believes in demons, angels, places outside of this earth, an almighty, all powerful, all loving, all knowing but still utterly useless God just because someone else told me it to be the truth with no proof.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="9sublime, post: 20001, member: 285"] That people are killing in the name of other religions, and God does nothing about it. Well for one I don't believe anyone is a prophet from God unless they prove it to me, not the people around them 2,000 years ago. Secondly, the validity of what he said is definetly questionable as the Bible has been translated and tampered with for the last 2,000 years. I don't believe he is the son of God. I have never seen solid proof he is, or that God even exists. I don't believe he even said or did a lot of things he was said to have done. Have you watched zeitgeist. I found it fascinating. Give me some solid proof that Jesus is any different from every other prophet and that he can do what he said he can do and is where he said he was from or otherwise admit that your belief is pretty irrational. One's religion doesn't affect the logical processes of reason - THAT'S THE POINT.[/QUOTE] The presence of God, or Jesus definetly being the son of God are both definetly not self evident. I don't need anyone to tell me anything, I need to see something so important with my own eyes. At least some solid proof apart from what people spout out of their mouth. No I'm not. If someone came up to you and told you you were going to die tomorrow, would you believe it, just because some told you it but had no solid proof. Doubt you would. Excuse me but I'm not the one who believes in demons, angels, places outside of this earth, an almighty, all powerful, all loving, all knowing but still utterly useless God just because someone else told me it to be the truth with no proof.[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]

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