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Call me thick, but I still don't see what it has to do with anything. She said ancient Athens was an example of true democracy. I said it wasn't because of it's severely limited definition of a citizen. Then she comes back and says well America at one time had restricted voting rights as well. I never said America was a "true democracy" as she had said about Athens so I don't see how this was relevant at all.We were talking about American government vs. European government. I pointed to Germany as an example of a country that at one time was a constitutional republic (Weimar) but had degenerated because of the government's ownership of their rights. When the government, in your country's system, gives you your rights, then by definition they can also take them away. That's what happened with Hitler. One by one he began to remove people's rights (beginning with none other than the right to bear arms).You're correct -- today, this relationship has been blurred for two reasons: (1) schools don't teach about the significance of "The Creator" because the vast majority don't want to acknowledge God's significance to this country or they are simply too stupid to see the importance themselves.(2) The government itself has began to violate this relationship more and more to the point where people don't even recognize it, beginning with Wilson through FDR.
Call me thick, but I still don't see what it has to do with anything. She said ancient Athens was an example of true democracy. I said it wasn't because of it's severely limited definition of a citizen. Then she comes back and says well America at one time had restricted voting rights as well. I never said America was a "true democracy" as she had said about Athens so I don't see how this was relevant at all.
We were talking about American government vs. European government. I pointed to Germany as an example of a country that at one time was a constitutional republic (Weimar) but had degenerated because of the government's ownership of their rights. When the government, in your country's system, gives you your rights, then by definition they can also take them away. That's what happened with Hitler. One by one he began to remove people's rights (beginning with none other than the right to bear arms).
You're correct -- today, this relationship has been blurred for two reasons: (1) schools don't teach about the significance of "The Creator" because the vast majority don't want to acknowledge God's significance to this country or they are simply too stupid to see the importance themselves.
(2) The government itself has began to violate this relationship more and more to the point where people don't even recognize it, beginning with Wilson through FDR.
