President Barack Obama...putting it all into perspective!

[ASPCA4EVER]

The speech last night...informative and totally explanatory: General McCristal told our president that the Afghanistan war could be won in 18 months with more troops...so he'll either be correct in his opinion/report or we'll be coming home...either way...this heinous event needs to have an ENDING DATE!

And with our presidents remarks about the whys & wherefores about Vietnam...I'll not be using it as a comparison any longer. He was quite right...Afghanistan isn't Vietnam and we do have NATO behind us and we need the NATO troops to step up to the plate and support this endeavor because the Taliban has had a negative impact on their countries as well!

What did you think about his speech?

 

[always]

The speech last night...informative and totally explanatory: General McCristal told our president that the Afghanistan war could be won in 18 months with more troops...so he'll either be correct in his opinion/report or we'll be coming home...either way...this heinous event needs to have an ENDING DATE!

And with our presidents remarks about the whys & wherefores about Vietnam...I'll not be using it as a comparison any longer. He was quite right...Afghanistan isn't Vietnam and we do have NATO behind us and we need the NATO troops to step up to the plate and support this endeavor because the Taliban has had a negative impact on their countries as well!

What did you think about his speech?

A BORING SPEECH from a TOTALY INEPT president , The TALIBAN is assured a winner in 18 months. What kind of mind does Obama have? Even a "community organizer" should know better! AMERICA , WE are in GRAVE danger! Here is Taliban battle plan, KILL as many Americans as possible in 18 months without exposing the Taliban, Hide in the mountains , then come out as "AIR HEAD" withdrawls his troops. Taliban then takes over , Obama blames BUSH!! America is in MORTAL DANGER , not from abroad BUT from our White House!!

 

[Dr.Who]

The speech last night...informative and totally explanatory: General McCristal told our president that the Afghanistan war could be won in 18 months with more troops...so he'll either be correct in his opinion/report or we'll be coming home...either way...this heinous event needs to have an ENDING DATE!

And with our presidents remarks about the whys & wherefores about Vietnam...I'll not be using it as a comparison any longer. He was quite right...Afghanistan isn't Vietnam and we do have NATO behind us and we need the NATO troops to step up to the plate and support this endeavor because the Taliban has had a negative impact on their countries as well!

What did you think about his speech?

If you were the coach of an NBA basketball team and during a heated game you made the statement that you were going to have your team stop trying to win in 2 minutes what do you suppose the opposing team would do in response? A smart opposition would call a time out for 2 minutes then resume playing and score lots of points while your team just watched.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to be out AFTER VICTORY. But one should not tell the enemy that they should just relax until you go home then resume their activities.

 

[always]

If you were the coach of an NBA basketball team and during a heated game you made the statement that you were going to have your team stop trying to win in 2 minutes what do you suppose the opposing team would do in response? A smart opposition would call a time out for 2 minutes then resume playing and score lots of points while your team just watched.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to be out AFTER VICTORY. But one should not tell the enemy that they should just relax until you go home then resume their activities.

A DEFINITION of "INEPT" --- Obama!!

 

[PLC1]

The speech last night...informative and totally explanatory: General McCristal told our president that the Afghanistan war could be won in 18 months with more troops...so he'll either be correct in his opinion/report or we'll be coming home...either way...this heinous event needs to have an ENDING DATE!

Eighteen months? That's three times as long as the war in Iraq was supposed to have lasted, at least according to Rumsfeld.

Maybe it will be over, and maybe it won't. It all depends on what happens in the next few months, and what the goal is.

What is the goal in Afganistan, anyway?

And with our presidents remarks about the whys & wherefores about Vietnam...I'll not be using it as a comparison any longer. He was quite right...Afghanistan isn't Vietnam and we do have NATO behind us and we need the NATO troops to step up to the plate and support this endeavor because the Taliban has had a negative impact on their countries as well!

What did you think about his speech?

It could turn out to be a good comparison, especially when we look back on the Johnson presidency, and wonder what will happen to the Obama Administration should the situation in Afganistan spiral out of control like the one in Vietnam did back then.

Of course, what happens to Obama is really insignificant compared to what such a situation would do to the people involved.

 

[Gipper]

 

[TVoffBrainOn]

If you were the coach of an NBA basketball team and during a heated game you made the statement that you were going to have your team stop trying to win in 2 minutes what do you suppose the opposing team would do in response? A smart opposition would call a time out for 2 minutes then resume playing and score lots of points while your team just watched.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to be out AFTER VICTORY. But one should not tell the enemy that they should just relax until you go home then resume their activities.

Great. While the enemy relaxes we will have an easier time training an army of 200,000 Afghans, so that when we leave and the "timeout" is over the Afghans can fight there war with an able army and a population that spent 18 months seeing the goals established and the future of their country in their own hands.

 

[BigRob]

Great. While the enemy relaxes we will have an easier time training an army of 200,000 Afghans, so that when we leave and the "timeout" is over the Afghans can fight there war with an able army and a population that spent 18 months seeing the goals established and the future of their country in their own hands.

We have been training the Afghan military for basically eight years now. What is going to change in the next 18 months to suddenly have them be capable of maintaining security?

 

[TVoffBrainOn]

We have been training the Afghan military for basically eight years now. What is going to change in the next 18 months to suddenly have them be capable of maintaining security?

The original goal of 134,000 Afghan troops and 96,800 police trained by Oct 31st 2010, is on target. However, a new goal based on this new timeline is said to be 240,000 troops and 160,000 police.

The surge of our troops, as well as the request for 5,000-10,000 more troops from Nato allies will support meeting the new goals for training.

So the simple answer to your question is: the size of their army and police force.

 

[always]

The speech last night...informative and totally explanatory: General McCristal told our president that the Afghanistan war could be won in 18 months with more troops...so he'll either be correct in his opinion/report or we'll be coming home...either way...this heinous event needs to have an ENDING DATE!

And with our presidents remarks about the whys & wherefores about Vietnam...I'll not be using it as a comparison any longer. He was quite right...Afghanistan isn't Vietnam and we do have NATO behind us and we need the NATO troops to step up to the plate and support this endeavor because the Taliban has had a negative impact on their countries as well!

What did you think about his speech?

I was NEVER so ASHAMED of any past president , even jimmy carter, as I was last night hearing our confused Obama try and have it both ways , Pleasing his far left radical base and try to show some thoughts concerning our military. He failed on all counts and looked very foolish in doing so. The OFFICE OF OUR PRESIDENT just dipped into a DISGRACEFUL SEWER with his presentation. The ENTIRE WORLD saw this , America , "We have a problem",We can pretend not to see him , not to hear him , not to know him , BUT The Entire World now knows just how unfit and inept he is for the job. Community Organizer ,"maybe " , AMERICAN PRESIDENT, "NO,NO,NO"!

 

[BigRob]

The original goal of 134,000 Afghan troops and 96,800 police trained by Oct 31st 2010, is on target. However, a new goal based on this new timeline is said to be 240,000 troops and 160,000 police.

What? Just in May, the British and American military commented that they were up to two years behind in training the police in most of Afghanistan.

The focus was pretty much all on the military, but it has taken 7 years to get a force that is questionable at best, has high desertion rates, and is unable to secure the country itself.

The surge of our troops, as well as the request for 5,000-10,000 more troops from Nato allies will support meeting the new goals for training.

So the simple answer to your question is: the size of their army and police force.

The size of the military does not mean anything. You need a trained unit that looks beyond tribal barriers and has a view of Afghanistan as one country. That is going to take more than 18 months to address in my opinion.

 

[ASPCA4EVER]

If you were the coach of an NBA basketball team and during a heated game you made the statement that you were going to have your team stop trying to win in 2 minutes what do you suppose the opposing team would do in response? A smart opposition would call a time out for 2 minutes then resume playing and score lots of points while your team just watched.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to be out AFTER VICTORY. But one should not tell the enemy that they should just relax until you go home then resume their activities.

Maybe the people in charge of our military are standing around tapping their feet and drumming their fingers...just waiting for your 'OH-SO-knowledgeable' warfare brilliance and experience to guide them from their collective foibles and blundering ways

But let me provide you with an éclaircissement...Basketball is a SPORT...War, not so much...people DIE! Good Grief what a {non allowed word}!

 

[Dr.Who]

Great. While the enemy relaxes we will have an easier time training an army of 200,000 Afghans, so that when we leave and the "timeout" is over the Afghans can fight there war with an able army and a population that spent 18 months seeing the goals established and the future of their country in their own hands.

If the Afghans can get up to speed that might actually work.

 

[Dr.Who]

Maybe the people in charge of our military are standing around tapping their feet and drumming their fingers...just waiting for your 'OH-SO-knowledgeable' warfare brilliance and experience to guide them from their collective foibles and blundering ways

I am by no means a brilliant war strategist. But just about every war strategist and politicians too knows it is not wise to telegraph your moves to the enemy.

"Not all that long ago, leading Democrats thought arbitrary and rigid timetables were a very bad idea. Speaking at the National Press Club in 2005, now-Majority Leader Harry Reid said this: "As far as setting a timeline, as we learned in the Balkans, that's not a wise decision, because it only empowers those who don't want us there, and it doesn't work well to do that."

Six months later, the now-Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, Joseph Biden, put it this way: "A deadline for pulling out . . . will only encourage our enemies to wait us out." He added it would be "a Lebanon in 1985 [sic]. And God knows where it goes from there."

And three months later, the junior Senator from New York, Hillary Rodham Clinton, said this: "I don't believe it's smart to set a date for withdrawal. I don't think you should ever telegraph your intentions to the enemy so they can await you."

The arguments made by these Democrats were based on a time-honored truth: Setting a date certain for withdrawal, regardless of conditions on the ground and the trajectory of events, is exactly what our enemies want. []"

As a general rule of military strategy, you don't want to take steps that are the equivalent of sending a gift-wrapped package to your adversaries. That is precisely what a date certain for withdrawal would be. Once upon a time, leading Democrats believed this and therefore argued against it. Now they are arguing for it. I'll leave it to others to ascertain why that might be the case. "
http://www.opinionjournal.com/federation/feature/?id=110009812

Here are the words of a military strategist:


"Retired Maj. Gen. Robert H. Scales Jr., former commandant of the Army War College who wrote the service's official history of the 1991 Persian Gulf war, likened the current strategy to a football team employing a no-huddle offense.

"You have to build uncertainty. You don't want to telegraph your intentions, so you have the flexibility and the freedom to operate far afield," he explained."

(interestingly he even used a game as an analogy)
http://www.baltimoresun.com/topic/bal-te.military21mar21,0,5494717.story

 

[ASPCA4EVER]

Dr. WHO: I am by no means a brilliant war strategist. But just about every war strategist and politicians too knows it is not wise to telegraph your moves to the enemy.

Not since...way back in the beginning of this entire debacle {8 years ago} has there been any A N Y, secretive/confidential material {that was the night that G.W.B. came on and had the emergency broadcast that announced our invasion of Afghanistan} that has not been written up/discussed/chewed over and in general...just tossed around the media world for any and all to hear and you are concerned/worried about the ENEMY KNOWING OUR STRATEGY...MY THAT SEEMS RATHER LIKE THE COW AND THE BARN DOOR?