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This must be the quote you are speaking of pocket, I was confused since you didn't put in the full quote.



Yes I think to be a liberal you must accept abortion as a fundamental right.  Not only because its what liberals themselves teach but because with the exception of talk show host Ed Shultz (who is attacked by liberals often for being pro life) Just because a person is a democrat does not make them a liberal.  Not all democrats think abortion is a fundamental right, that is something liberals say, not democrats in general.


Every liberal I know of, including every liberal in government is not only pro abortion they wont vote for a federal judge, supreme court judge who is not also pro abortion. 


Democrats and liberals are not the same thing and blue dog conservative democrats are not liberals even if you want to pretend they are.  They can be in your world but in the main stream world it just isn't so.


You may know a liberal in your personal life who is liberal and pro life, it is possible.... look at Ed Shultz but the only liberals that we can both know who they are and what their record is on abortion would be public figures.  So my knowing no liberals who are pro life in my personal life and your knowing one liberal who is pro life in your personal life is a mute point since it cannot be proven.


But since you and I cannot even agree on who is a liberal the argument is pointless.


Let me try to put this in a way you would understand.



Imagine the Tea Party taught that slavery was a fundamental right.  Imagine that You could name a long list of Tea Party members who were on record saying that slavery was a fundamental right and advocated/voted for it and imagine you asked me to name even one Tea Party member who was on record for not agreeing with slavery and I could not but instead I named some republicans who said that they were against slavery and I insisted they were Tea Party members even though you knew they were not.


You would conclude and you would be right to say that being a Tea Party member meant you accepted slavery as a fundamental right but would not say the same for main stream republicans.  And you would be right!  If the Tea Party stood for everything I stand for except slavery, I would not associate with that party over that one key position.


I do not expect you to get this, you argue with me for arguments sake.


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