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The whole yellow-cake, WMD, the terrorists came from Iraq game. You can't swing a dead cat and not hit 2 or 3 things that created this series of events. 




You can put wings on a pig my friend... but that don't make him an eagle! The world doesn't have to assume anymore. It's just not a big secret. 




Come on my friend... please don't do that. You know there are many, many Republicans that have said the exact same things the media has. Maybe the neo-cons in the way out there talk radio market might not want to come to the reality of the moment yet but it's certainly no conspiracy of the "media". 


It's not a fair shake or an unfair shake. The truth is the truth. I don't get swayed by the far Right or Left... they're often too radical in the views for me. I find being moderate helps locate the ideas that are the most practical. We need to work together.




Bush Now Says What He Wouldn’t Say Before War: Iraq Had ‘Nothing’ To Do With 9/11

President Bush was in the midst of explaining how the attacks of 9/11 inspired his “freedom agenda” and the attacks on Iraq until a reporter, Ken Herman of Cox News, interrupted to ask what Iraq had to do with 9/11. “Nothing,” Bush defiantly answered. Watch it.


To justify the war, Bush informed Congress on March 19, 2003 that acting against Iraq was consistent with “continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.”


Vice President Cheney cited “evidence” cooked up by Douglas Feith and others to claim it was “pretty well confirmed” that Iraq had contacts with 9/11 hijackers.


More generally, in the lead-up to the war in Iraq, the administration encouraged the false impression that Saddam had a role in 9/11. Bush never stated then, as he does now, that Iraq had “nothing” to do with 9/11. Only after the Iraq war began did Bush candidly acknowledge that Iraq was not operationally linked to 9/11.




It's a Civil War my friend. I know somebody on the ground there right now. Even the Pentagon is now saying it. There's other things going on also... but it's not really up for debate anymore... there is definately a Civil War going on there. 


 


Again... I'm not just pulling this stuff out of thin air. I've talked with soldiers that have been there on multiple tours in that region. I've even visited some down at Fort Campbell Kentucky in between tours... Home of the Screaming Eagles.



 


You have that right. I hope as time goes by you reconsider. We need to work together.





No you did not. They still deserve a fair shake. They didn't get that going in with poor armor and a pack of lies. They're not getting that with our current policy. 




I think if you look at the polls only about 30% continue to support the "war". And I know from attending a meeting of theirs that the large national group "Military Families Speak Out" don't agree. 


Military Families Speak Out is an organization of people opposed to the war in Iraq who have relatives or loved ones currently in the military or who have served in the military since the buildup to the Iraq war in fall of 2002. Our membership currently includes over 3,400 military families, with new families joining daily. If you have family members or loved ones in the military and you are opposed to this war, JOIN us by sending an e-mail to us at mfso@mfso.org  


Support Our Troops, Save Our Troops

De-Fund the War

Fund a Safe and Orderly Withdrawal from Iraq and Care for Our Troops as They Return


Click here to download MFSO Memorial Day Statement

MEMORIAL DAY BETRAYAL: 

CONGRESS ABANDONS OUR TROOPS BY EXTENDING FUNDING FOR IRAQ WAR




I think this has been addressed. I don't believe you are really as heartless as you might appear. These are peoples sons and daughters. They deserve to be treated fairly. They are not just disposable because they signed up.




There's nothing demeaning about doing the job you've been ordered to do. They won and won quickly on the task Congress approved for the to do. Now it's just Nation Building and their lives should no longer be sacrificed for that. It's going on 5 years now. It's simply their time to come home. 


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