J d Vance.

[Boris Norris]

This will make the Magas proud. This nutter is a clone of trumps.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Do you think people should be given extra votes because they have children? The Constitution disagrees with this, but JD Vance does not.

There was once this hateful old Texas Oilman named H.L. Hunt, who wrote a novel called "Alpaca", about some South American Idyllic country where the rich got votes dependent on their income. If you earned a million dollars, you go more votes than those who earned a mere $10,000.

When I was a kid, I had read about Hunt, whose family was very influential in the Kansas City Area. I had appointments with an allergy specialist in KC and I took the bus into the city, and had to wait for the afternoon Greyhound back to town. There was a rightwing bookstore not far from the medical building and so I went in and asked if they had a copy of "Alpaca". The lady told be that the government had banned it and they had no copies to sell.

Yeah, sure. So I went to the KC Public Library and checked it out. No problem: they had three copies and they were all there together on the shelves. Then I took it back to the bookstore and showed it to the lady.

"Well, at least they are doing something right,: she said.
"They have to, it's in the Constitution", I told her, "You ought to read it sometime.".

 

[mark francis]

Do you think people should be given extra votes because they have children? The Constitution disagrees with this, but JD Vance does not.

There was once this hateful old Texas Oilman named H.L. Hunt, who wrote a novel called "Alpaca", about some South American Idyllic country where the rich got votes dependent on their income. If you earned a million dollars, you go more votes than those who earned a mere $10,000.

When I was a kid, I had read about Hunt, whose family was very influential in the Kansas City Area. I had appointments with an allergy specialist in KC and I took the bus into the city, and had to wait for the afternoon Greyhound back to town. There was a rightwing bookstore not far from the medical building and so I went in and asked if they had a copy of "Alpaca". The lady told be that the government had banned it and they had no copies to sell.

Yeah, sure. So I went to the KC Public Library and checked it out. No problem: they had three copies and they were all there together on the shelves. Then I took it back to the bookstore and showed it to the lady.

"Well, at least they are doing something right,: she said.
"They have to, it's in the Constitution", I told her, "You ought to read it sometime.".

The votes of Americans who obey laws and work for their money are worth more than the votes of lazy, greedy, and shiftless
bums who want to elect sympathesizers to their cause who promise to give them free money if elected.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

The votes of Americans who obey laws and work for their money are worth more than the votes of lazy, greedy, and shiftless
bums who want to elect sympathesizers to their cause who promise to give them free money if elected.

The standard is one person one vote, you simple-minded ninny. There is no country on this planet that gives more votes to some voters than others. Talk about lazy, greedy and shiftless people, how about Karl Rove? How about the Fascisti at the Heritage Foundation, trying to prevent actual democracy?

But everyone gets just ONE VOTE. Shady Vance is tapping into some Italian philosopher of the 1800's.

 

[Boris Norris]

The votes of Americans who obey laws and work for their money are worth more than the votes of lazy, greedy, and shiftless
bums who want to elect sympathesizers to their cause who promise to give them free money if elected.

But heaven forbid we should have authoritarianism. I'm so pleased Trump put a stop to all that.

 

[mark francis]

But heaven forbid we should have authoritarianism. I'm so pleased Trump put a stop to all that.

By trying to avoid the leftist false assessments of the alleged authoritarianism of the Constitution and American Republic of laws and order, democrats have turned themselves over to decievers seeking to strip them and every other American of their constitutional rights for brutal fascist tyrannical dictatorships.

 

[Boris Norris]

By trying to avoid the leftist false assessments of the alleged authoritarianism of the Constitution and American Republic of laws and order

When did democrats ever interpret the constitution or make an effort to change it to authoritarianism?
It was Trump and the j6 riots who tried. Why are you switching the blame? You know your wrong.

, democrats have turned themselves over to decievers seeking to strip them and every other American of their constitutional rights for brutal fascist tyrannical dictatorships.

You've really lost the plot. You're paranoid again.
If project 2025 gets instituted you see all about tyrannical dictators and you'll be responsible for voting him in.

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[Gabriel_Bell]

Venezuela has ALWAYS had serious problems with corruption, and nothing AOC advocates is in anyway related to Venezuela.You are really ignorant and should simply STFU, as everyone with a brain already knows you are a fanatical fundie fascist that repeats evet=y lie you hear.

 

[mark francis]

You've really lost the plot. You're paranoid again.
If project 2025 gets instituted you see all about tyrannical dictators and you'll be responsible for voting him in.

Communism and democrat socialism is totalitarian in nature. The rights and wages of workers much be abridged by tyrants in a socialist system that depends on confiscting larger and larger portions of the wealth of oppressed workers to survive and practice.

 

[mark francis]

Venezuela has ALWAYS had serious problems with corruption, and nothing AOC advocates is in anyway related to Venezuela.You are really ignorant and should simply STFU, as everyone with a brain already knows you are a fanatical fundie fascist that repeats evet=y lie you hear.

Venezuela's tragic fall from prosperity to poverty can be reasonably traced to the rise of communism under Hugo Chavez who was backed by George Soros and his crooked Smartmatic voting machine theft of elections, stripping Venezuelan citizens of their voting rights, their votes, and their prosperity. Thanks to voter fraud thousands of Venezulans have fled Venezuela and have entered the US where again Crooks supported by fiends like Soros are stripping away American voting rights and giving them to thieves and liars promoting democrat socialism and communism under the false moniker, 'saving democracy.'

How Socialism Destroyed Venezuela

Nationalizations under Chavez and Maduro that should have given “power” to workers only left them unemployed and hungry.

manhattan.institute

Many in the media have blamed Venezuela’s worsening humanitarian crisis on corruption, mismanagement, falling oil prices, or U.S sanctions—anything but the rise of socialism in what was once the wealthiest country in South America.

Yet corruption and mismanagement were the direct result of increased government control of the economy—socialism—and in reality, lower oil prices and U.S. sanctions have little to do with the crisis. Instead, the mass starvation and exodus faced by Venezuelans are the natural consequence of the socialist policies implemented by dictators Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro.

 

[Boris Norris]

Communism and democrat socialism is totalitarian in nature. The rights and wages of workers much be abridged by tyrants in a socialist system that depends on confiscting larger and larger portions of the wealth of oppressed workers to survive and practice.

When was socialism or communism ever applied to USA?

Since you mentioned spreading the wealth, I assume you approve Trump borrowing a trillion to give tax breaks to his wall street buddies. Is that socialism also?
You dont know what it means.

 

[mark francis]

When was socialism or communism ever applied to USA?

Since you mentioned spreading the wealth, I assume you approve Trump borrowing a trillion to give tax breaks to his wall street buddies. Is that socialism also?
You dont know what it means.

You don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Germany, the Netherlands, France, Spain, Portugal, and many other countries have had Social Democratic governments for decades, and none of them is in any way totalitarian.

Venezuela has depended almost entirely on exports of petroleum and iron ore for many decades. The price of oil is extremely volatile, and therefore Venezuela's economy has always been of the boom or bust variety. As an industry, petroleum extraction requires a rather small workforce. And of course, there is a hole in the ground and they are pumping oil out. Petroleum is not uniform: it can be light or heavy it can be mixed with water and gas, and the devices that measure the amount being pumped are adjustable and therefore prone to being tampered with.

Venezuela has a lot of potentially productive farmland, but it does not produce enough food to feed itself. Until Venezuela is less dependent on petroleum, it will never economically stable. The AD, Copei and Chavistas have failed to provide jobs and to exploit the huge agricultural potential of the country. There has always been a huge amount of corruption.

Mark is ignorant about politics and history, and obsessed with his crackpot fundie religion.

 

[mark francis]

Germany, the Netherlands, France, Spain, Portugal, and many other countries have had Social Democratic governments for decades, and none of them is in any way totalitarian.

Venezuela has depended almost entirely on exports of petroleum and iron ore for many decades. The price of oil is extremely volatile, and therefore Venezuela's economy has always been of the boom or bust variety. As an industry, petroleum extraction requires a rather small workforce. And of course, there is a hole in the ground and they are pumping oil out. Petroleum is not uniform: it can be light or heavy it can be mixed with water and gas, and the devices that measure the amount being pumped are adjustable and therefore prone to being tampered with.

Venezuela has a lot of potentially productive farmland, but it does not produce enough food to feed itself. Until Venezuela is less dependent on petroleum, it will never economically stable. The AD, Copei and Chavistas have failed to provide jobs and to exploit the huge agricultural potential of the country. There has always been a huge amount of corruption.

Mark is ignorant about politics and history, and obsessed with his crackpot fundie religion.

When crooks and thieves stole the Venezuelan election by fraud using voting machines connected to George Soros, the crooks who took control of the government trashed the nation and plunged Venezuela into deep poverty, except for the riches enjoyed by the 'democrat' leaders who administered the newly sworn in communist government. Much like the democrats are doing to the US.

 

[Boris Norris]

You don't know what you are talking about.

Of course not and coming from a reputable source like a hate filled godbothering racist republican, why would I doubt it.