Was Einstein a fake?, page 1
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ATS Members have flagged this thread 1 timesTopic started on 22-3-2008 @ 05:59 AM by VIKINGANT
I have noticed many times that people (ATS and elswhere) tend to quote - or misquote - Albert Einstein in thier arguments. Is the work of Einstein to be taken as gospel? Is much of it correct?
While he was a clever mathemetitian and phycisist alot of the the work claimed to be his was belonged to someone else. his wife Mileva for instance was a much more educated and talented scientist and probably is the person responsible for alot of his works.
His work in the patent office also gave him opportunity to claim and rework other peoples ideas.
The most famous equation in the world E=mc^2 in fact belongs to Olinto De Pretto.
Besides this, some of his work has been either discredited or at best questioned in recent times.
Much of his work although clever and mind boggling to many of us was only theory explained in such a way that the unknowing can only accept it as they cannot query it.
reply posted on 22-3-2008 @ 08:59 AM by hinky
You know, Elisha Gray invented the telephone, but a guy by the name of Bell beat him on a patent.
Einstein had a better press agent which is why the equation is related to him and not the obscure Italian.
As for him being clever, you lack the proper words to describe his work; or, your trying to be "clever".
Einstein built a foundation for future mathematicians and physicists to built upon. His basic work is solid and has been refined. Some of his work has been further expanded into new fields of science, and some of his work is just too advanced for science to currently explain. (kinda like some of Tesla's work)
You have made some bold statements involving his work actually being done by others. Without a formal knowledge of mathematics and physics, a person has to take the knowledge produced by others who do understand, what was actually said or done. Einstein is considered one of the greatest scientist of all time.
reply posted on 22-3-2008 @ 09:05 AM by ZeroKnowledge
Einstein could be (and probably have been) wrong. Aristotle's view on universe was accepted for a while. Wrong. Newton - also wrong. Logically to assume Einstein - wrong. We develop with time and so see how the universe works better and better. Nothing is an axiom.
reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 07:49 AM by VIKINGANT
A couple of things I would like to clarify
Originally posted by hinky
You know, Elisha Gray invented the telephone, but a guy by the name of Bell beat him on a patent.
Are you saying Einstein just got in quicker? De Pretto had published the equation at least twice before Eistein saw it...
As for him being clever, you lack the proper words to describe his work; or, your trying to be "clever".
I think this is an accurate description. He was impressive but not necessarily the 'genious' that people worship
Without a formal knowledge of mathematics and physics, a person has to take the knowledge produced by others who do understand, what was actually said or done. Einstein is considered one of the greatest scientist of all time.
I agree here, but I also said that he was 'clever' and that he did know what he was talking about but knowing the information does not = creating the information.
You said it yourself. he had a good press agent. There are many people much more intelligent (then and now) but have not been recognized. Being published is not necessarily brilliance.
This will get me into alot of trouble but I didnt invent this, I only heard it...
We have all heard that no one knows his last words as he spoke them in German and the nurse with him did not speak German. There is also a story that his last words were in fact a confession of plagiarism but was kept quite. I am not saying it is true, just what I heard
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ATS Members have flagged this thread 1 timesTopic started on 22-3-2008 @ 05:59 AM by VIKINGANT
I have noticed many times that people (ATS and elswhere) tend to quote - or misquote - Albert Einstein in thier arguments. Is the work of Einstein to be taken as gospel? Is much of it correct?
While he was a clever mathemetitian and phycisist alot of the the work claimed to be his was belonged to someone else. his wife Mileva for instance was a much more educated and talented scientist and probably is the person responsible for alot of his works.
His work in the patent office also gave him opportunity to claim and rework other peoples ideas.
The most famous equation in the world E=mc^2 in fact belongs to Olinto De Pretto.
Besides this, some of his work has been either discredited or at best questioned in recent times.
Much of his work although clever and mind boggling to many of us was only theory explained in such a way that the unknowing can only accept it as they cannot query it.
reply posted on 22-3-2008 @ 08:59 AM by hinky
You know, Elisha Gray invented the telephone, but a guy by the name of Bell beat him on a patent.
Einstein had a better press agent which is why the equation is related to him and not the obscure Italian.
As for him being clever, you lack the proper words to describe his work; or, your trying to be "clever".
Einstein built a foundation for future mathematicians and physicists to built upon. His basic work is solid and has been refined. Some of his work has been further expanded into new fields of science, and some of his work is just too advanced for science to currently explain. (kinda like some of Tesla's work)
You have made some bold statements involving his work actually being done by others. Without a formal knowledge of mathematics and physics, a person has to take the knowledge produced by others who do understand, what was actually said or done. Einstein is considered one of the greatest scientist of all time.
reply posted on 22-3-2008 @ 09:05 AM by ZeroKnowledge
Einstein could be (and probably have been) wrong. Aristotle's view on universe was accepted for a while. Wrong. Newton - also wrong. Logically to assume Einstein - wrong. We develop with time and so see how the universe works better and better. Nothing is an axiom.
reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 07:49 AM by VIKINGANT
A couple of things I would like to clarify
Originally posted by hinky
You know, Elisha Gray invented the telephone, but a guy by the name of Bell beat him on a patent.
Are you saying Einstein just got in quicker? De Pretto had published the equation at least twice before Eistein saw it...
As for him being clever, you lack the proper words to describe his work; or, your trying to be "clever".
I think this is an accurate description. He was impressive but not necessarily the 'genious' that people worship
Without a formal knowledge of mathematics and physics, a person has to take the knowledge produced by others who do understand, what was actually said or done. Einstein is considered one of the greatest scientist of all time.
I agree here, but I also said that he was 'clever' and that he did know what he was talking about but knowing the information does not = creating the information.
You said it yourself. he had a good press agent. There are many people much more intelligent (then and now) but have not been recognized. Being published is not necessarily brilliance.
This will get me into alot of trouble but I didnt invent this, I only heard it...
We have all heard that no one knows his last words as he spoke them in German and the nurse with him did not speak German. There is also a story that his last words were in fact a confession of plagiarism but was kept quite. I am not saying it is true, just what I heard
