Do voter IDs affect elections? Of the 20 states Kamala won only RI requires a photo ID without exceptions

[mark francis]

Democrats are right when they claim photo ID requirements hinder minority fraudulent voting.

Voter identification laws by state

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[Randomguy]

I hear wet pavements cause rain.

 

[mark francis]

I hear wet pavements cause rain.

My guess is that you see no connection between strong democrat animosity against election securities like photo ID requirements and democrat showings in areas with lax voting securities.

 

[Randomguy]

My guess is that you see no connection between strong democrat animosity against election securities like photo ID requirements and democrat showings in areas with lax voting securities.

I see dems are against right-wingers attempts to deny voting rights to Americans who are likely to vote democratic.

 

[the annoying thing]

I hear wet pavements cause rain.

Yep nd I hear stupid democrats hate the truth also.
it allows illegal voting
What is wrong with a voter Id o yes it prevents people from voting for the dead and illegals from voting yet you need a ID to get a job cash a check drive a car rent a room or home or take out a loan . Yet liberals fight against it for some reason mainly I think because

 

[Randomguy]

You hav

Yep nd I hear stupid democrats hate the truth also.
it allows illegal voting
What is wrong with a voter Id o yes it prevents people from voting for the dead and illegals from voting yet you need a ID to get a job cash a check drive a car rent a room or home or take out a loan . Yet liberals fight against it for some reason mainly I think because

You have been afflicted with the never answer any arguments virus. Answering arguments is hard work and requires intelligence and often education. Too bad for you.

 

[the annoying thing]

You hav

You have been afflicted with the never answer any arguments virus. Answering arguments is hard work and requires intelligence and often education. Too bad for you.

See what I mean I ask you a question and you do not answer, you can't answer it with the standard LIBERAL BULL SHAT BECAUSE IT WILL NOT WORK SO YOU GO THE LIBERAL WEASEL WAY

 

[the annoying thing]

yes A liberals hate voter ID laws , without them it allows all kinds of illegal voting and they love it, they will all lie about this but I think its fact they want them to vote.

 

[mark francis]

I see dems are against right-wingers attempts to deny voting rights to Americans who are likely to vote democratic.

Voting securities are not a threat to any honest voter or honest political party.

 

[Randomguy]

See what I mean I ask you a question and you do not answer, you can't answer it with the standard LIBERAL BULL SHAT BECAUSE IT WILL NOT WORK SO YOU GO THE LIBERAL WEASEL WAY

You asked a question without answering mine. Next time answer first then ask and see if you get a different result.

 

[Randomguy]

yes A liberals hate voter ID laws , without them it allows all kinds of illegal voting and they love it, they will all lie about this but I think its fact they want them to vote.

No it does not.

 

[Randomguy]

Voting securities are not a threat to any honest voter or honest political party.

Yes they are.

 

[the annoying thing]

No it does not.

O yes they do and they fight against them without end

hy are liberal groups determined to repeal laws requiring proof of citizenship and residence? The answer is found in a definition of the word fraud...

Granted, most poor people are unlikely to have a passport, but the state will issue any legal resident an identification card. Are civil rights groups who sued the state contending that poor and minority people are so inept that they can't apply for an identification card? If that is their position, how are they able to apply for SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistant Program) benefits, which require a photo ID? Why is voting the one category in which you don't have to prove your citizenship and legal residence?

I will answer that question in a moment.

Three years ago during a similar controversy, Ashe Schow of The Washington Examiner compiled a list of 24 things that require a photo ID.

You must have a photo ID if you are 25 or under and wish to purchase alcohol or cigarettes. Store signs say so. Want to open a bank account? Photo ID required. Here are the rest of the categories: applying for welfare, Medicaid and Social Security (presumably poor people take advantage of one or more of these programs); unemployment benefits (ditto); rent/buy a house, or apply for a mortgage; drive/buy/rent a car; get on an airplane; get married; buy a gun; adopt a pet; rent a hotel room; apply for a hunting or fishing license; buy a cellphone; visit a casino; pick up a prescription (or buy restricted over-the-counter medications); donate blood; apply for a license to hold a demonstration; buy an "M"-rated video game; purchase nail polish at CVS.

Again, why is voting placed in a separate category? Why are liberal groups determined to repeal laws requiring proof of citizenship and residence? The answer is found in a definition of the word fraud: "deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage."

Since many poor people are receiving government benefits, they are responsive to Democrats' claims that Republicans want to cut them off, so they had better vote early and vote often, as the saying goes, or else. Notice the left never focuses on emancipating people from poverty. That might make the poor independent of government, which would be intolerable to the left. They need a reliable voting bloc and keeping the poor dependent on government is a modern form of slavery that is cynical in the extreme.


Unless discrimination against an individual can be proved, these voter ID laws should be upheld. Otherwise, expect more votes from dead people, illegal aliens, people with false addresses and even Mickey Mouse. All of these scenarios have occurred in previous elections and are likely to be repeated in this and future ones without proper identification.

 

[Randomguy]

O yes they do and they fight against them without end

hy are liberal groups determined to repeal laws requiring proof of citizenship and residence? The answer is found in a definition of the word fraud...

Granted, most poor people are unlikely to have a passport, but the state will issue any legal resident an identification card. Are civil rights groups who sued the state contending that poor and minority people are so inept that they can't apply for an identification card? If that is their position, how are they able to apply for SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistant Program) benefits, which require a photo ID? Why is voting the one category in which you don't have to prove your citizenship and legal residence?

I will answer that question in a moment.

Three years ago during a similar controversy, Ashe Schow of The Washington Examiner compiled a list of 24 things that require a photo ID.

You must have a photo ID if you are 25 or under and wish to purchase alcohol or cigarettes. Store signs say so. Want to open a bank account? Photo ID required. Here are the rest of the categories: applying for welfare, Medicaid and Social Security (presumably poor people take advantage of one or more of these programs); unemployment benefits (ditto); rent/buy a house, or apply for a mortgage; drive/buy/rent a car; get on an airplane; get married; buy a gun; adopt a pet; rent a hotel room; apply for a hunting or fishing license; buy a cellphone; visit a casino; pick up a prescription (or buy restricted over-the-counter medications); donate blood; apply for a license to hold a demonstration; buy an "M"-rated video game; purchase nail polish at CVS.

Again, why is voting placed in a separate category? Why are liberal groups determined to repeal laws requiring proof of citizenship and residence? The answer is found in a definition of the word fraud: "deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage."

Since many poor people are receiving government benefits, they are responsive to Democrats' claims that Republicans want to cut them off, so they had better vote early and vote often, as the saying goes, or else. Notice the left never focuses on emancipating people from poverty. That might make the poor independent of government, which would be intolerable to the left. They need a reliable voting bloc and keeping the poor dependent on government is a modern form of slavery that is cynical in the extreme.


Unless discrimination against an individual can be proved, these voter ID laws should be upheld. Otherwise, expect more votes from dead people, illegal aliens, people with false addresses and even Mickey Mouse. All of these scenarios have occurred in previous elections and are likely to be repeated in this and future ones without proper identification.

Maybe we should agree to disagree.

I think it is a fact that demographics are favoring dems. To combat this the gop has decided to make it difficult to vote. Long lines. In ga they made it a felony for people to offer water to people standing in lines.

I am actually sympathetic to requiring ids bot voting and also making undocumented immigrants number to zero. But not for partisan reason like what the gop wants to do.

Let’s create a national I’d, not just for voting but also for welfare and work permit and buying guns. As I recall the do called conservatives were always against national id. The right wing is even against background check oft requiring an id for all gun purchases. Why is that?

I’m ok with a nonpartisan non government commission to determine how to go from present system to a system that would drop illegal voting to zero. I also have not seen any evidence that illegal voting is a problem. Giuliani went everywhere and said he had a list of illegal voters in ga. Eventually he was on a witness stand and admitted he did not have even a single name.