Whose First Amendment rights were violated?

Then you best be careful what you say about Muslims and their religion, BigRob.

Had the teacher said something like


Jesus is the way the truth and the life and no man comes to the Father except by Him.

or

God created the world in 6 days and on the seventh day he rested, would you still feel the same way about the punishment the teacher was given?

I think the problem here was he violated the establishment clause and he happened to do it with his words.

He has a right to say what he did, and if he were a "flat earther" he would have a right to say the bible is the only way except in a government job where you in a way represent the governemnt. When in that role you can not prop up or tear down any religon.

Freedom of speech is a tricky thing, I have freedom to sit in my house and yell FIRE FIRE FIRE but I cant go into the court house or a movie house and do it.

I think the case should never have gone this far. So the man has his view, his students who do not agree should have challenged him instead of making a federal case out of it.

WHOOOT we agree


Its nice when we can agree

I would like to think that teachers should be the mediators of fact and not given lessons in possiblity (( unless playing devil's advocate within the lines of " if such and such happened instead )) History teachers even more so. That being said, why not bring the subject to bare playing pro and con to both side a subject and allow smartly the student to decide for themselves.

Case and point ... my English history teacher in college had the class writing a report on the Discovery of the New world and the things most changed by it. I myself thought religion and the most changed paradigm shift however others thought otherwise... while I have that view possiblie away from others... the point of the teacher so simply for me to interpret the data and walk away with a new found understanding.

We can disagree tomorrow its nice even if its just once in a while

From what I read... I dont really think anyones right was violated to a enough extent to bring this much hype about it. It does sound like the plaintiffs are not interested in making a living off it, which is noble.

I am also glad that potentially an otherwise quality educator, perhaps gifted teacher isnt being overly smeared over it. I am not sure if this was brought through the normal chain of command of going to the principal first then school board etc.

I think this teacher probably needs to cool down on the rhetoric and probably needs to provide more news and less commentary, some history teachers/professors can be this way as most of us know.

Still doesnt have anything on the "Bong Hits For Jesus" sign from 2002.

Why do we bother with the constitution? It is the second most contradictory document I have ever read. Our own government violates it every day, and most countries change thier consitution every few years.