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Who's right, Democrats or Republicans?

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Mike Zaman, Oct 6, 2013.

  1. Mike Zaman

    Mike Zaman New Member

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    Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? Tell me your thoughts
     
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    Both are selling out the Country. Perhaps you should define "right".
     
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    The right is right and the left is wrong.
     
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    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    It depends on the specifics.
     
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    Dems are wrong n stupid Republicans right and smart.
     
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    The right are in :eek:Red States the left in blue states :cool:.
     
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    But seriously Mike, you can't ask that question and expect rational answers from the extremists here.

    To me, it's an ideological impasse for now. Right or Wrong is relative in this climate. The ultra-conservatives are forcing their will and allowing the economy to come close to the brink because they dislike Obamacare. Obama is obviously defending Obamacare. Both stances are to be expected.

    The media had lots of news ops before the crisis, but now, while nobody is talking to each other, the media has nothing to do but look for things so that their pundits can feign outrage.

    The right is feigning outrage at the closed memorials, etc. The left are steering outrage to the ultra-conservatives who forced the government to shut down in the first place.
     
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    Lag have you considered that rather than dislike of obamacsre its a case of knowing how damaging it will be to practically everyone ?
     
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    What???? :unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure:

    The Obama Regime's propagandist MSM didn't say anything about that ...... how were the sheeple to know?? :p
     
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    So they say. Many who say it's damaging are looking at only one aspect, such as some small businesses. Others are looking at a broader picture. It is a lifesaver for some, such as those with prior conditions, and older kids getting on their parents plans, and less ideal for others.

    Pundits in Florida were predicting high premiums that turned out to be much lower than expected.

    Is it really worth forcing it in a budget bill and let it potentially damage the economic integrity of the US?
     
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    It already has and will only get worse. And the math is simple, there are very few who will benefit while the vast majority will getbadly harmed.
     
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    I don't see that the math as simple ..... well, for the simple minded that is. One has to think outside to box in today's political environment. Merely quoting the regime's propagandist MSM will not lend any discernment and only leave one confused to the real reality. ;)
     
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    Well, saying that doesn't make it true. What do you mean by the "math". The ramifications for each demographic? Is there a reliable source? What does "badly burned" mean for the different demographic?
     
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    you dont haveto look far to see the constant string of reports detailing job cutbacks, hours trimming back, premium jncreases, businesses dropping insurance, sticker shock at exchange permiums/out of pocket deductables and on and on and on. you yourself point out that the affordable care act does nothing tk make care affordable. cbo has given the rosy picture of how much this thing will run in the financial hole and as always it will actually be far worse. all this on top of unsustainable debt from everything else. we need obamacare likea drowning man needs pockets full of anvils. if its wanting to feel better that winds your clock you can have the govt underwrite the truly needy for a fraction of the cost butbuying commer ial policies or just self insuring or even targeted expansion of medicare or medicaid.
     
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    Sure. There are a lot of negative anecdotal stories. I have seen a lot of positive stories too. The balance depends on the political bent of the media. As far as the cost to the country, you will get different predictions depending on the bias of the predictor. My attitude is to let Obamacare do it's thing and if there is enough dissatisfaction the next election will turn full republican, and they will do what they want with Obamacare.
     
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