What Does It Take To Be LGBT?

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

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Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

Does no one here have appreciation for such fine inspirational art?



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Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada

 

[Old_Trapper70]

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Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada

Question for you. Do you want a Theocracy that enforces Gods Law, or do you want the secular form of government the Founders established, and Christ said to obey?

As to "love", there is none expressed in your post. Only hate.

 

[Zynni]

You don't have to agree with people or even like their lifestyle, but you can disagree with them without being hateful. Any time name calling is the main premise of your argument, you lose.

Also, keep in mind what @Old_Trapper70 said. Even as a Christian myself, I wouldn't want a government like that. It's way too easy to abuse. Yes, the one we have now is abused as well, but it could always get worse.

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

Question for you. Do you want a Theocracy that enforces Gods Law, or do you want the secular form of government the Founders established, and Christ said to obey?

As to "love", there is none expressed in your post. Only hate.

Where is there mention of religious anything within that you are responding too? Religion has absolutely not anything to do with the foundation of this issue.

Sharing facts which reveal homosexual activists for the obsessive compulsive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be most certainly doesn't qualify me as a hater but thanks for confirming yet another fine example of what the fine art beginning this very thread already reveals.

That's what homosexual activists do, cry wolf with such lies as hater when they are not able to contest with so much as a shred of validity facts that reveal them for the pathetic compulsive obsessive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be on the foundation of their every issue to do with their filthy little bias agenda that I address.

I love and care about the well being and sanity of current and future generations which is why it is my pleasure to play a key role in eliminating the homosexual activist insanity manifestation permanently and globally despite your desperate attempt to try and make your obvious lies and deceptions the issue.

love

Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

You don't have to agree with people or even like their lifestyle, but you can disagree with them without being hateful. Any time name calling is the main premise of your argument, you lose.

Also, keep in mind what @Old_Trapper70 said. Even as a Christian myself, I wouldn't want a government like that. It's way too easy to abuse. Yes, the one we have now is abused as well, but it could always get worse.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, I share facts that back my claims on the foundations of primary issues I address and in this instance the facts which reveal homosexuals and homosexual activists for the compulsive obsessive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be on the foundation of their every issue to do with their filthy little bias agenda that I address which most certainly doesn't qualify me as a hater no matter how desperate you exemplify to be to try and make your every pathetic lie and deception the issue and it's no secret that you like every other homosexual activist on the planet does exactly that because not one of you has so much as a shred of validity when it comes to contesting the very facts I share which again exposes homosexual activists for the obsessive compulsive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be.

But thanks for sharing such a fine example of verifying what the beautiful art work beginning this very thread already reveals.

love

Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada

 

[Old_Trapper70]

Where is there mention of religious anything within that you are responding too? Religion has absolutely not anything to do with the foundation of this issue.

Without the religious definition of "marriage", or what is normal sexual behavior, what would you have?

Sharing facts which reveal homosexual activists for the obsessive compulsive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be most certainly doesn't qualify me as a hater but thanks for confirming yet another fine example of what the fine art beginning this very thread already reveals.

Yes, it does reveal your own dishonesty. To paint an entire group with the same paint brush is as dishonest as the ones you claim are "liars", etc.

That's what homosexual activists do, cry wolf with such lies as hater when they are not able to contest with so much as a shred of validity facts that reveal them for the pathetic compulsive obsessive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be on the foundation of their every issue to do with their filthy little bias agenda that I address.

No, when I call someone like you a liar, or a hater, it is because you are one, and I can prove it. You come to your "conclusions" not based on facts, but on your own hatred, and bigotry. I do not support homosexuality, nor do I attend any form of meetings that do. In fact, there are many things about homosexuality I have actively opposed in the past such as classes in Mass. teaching children about "fisting", or the opposition to blood tests for HIV/AIDS that occurred in the 80's, and 90's. Yet, if left to the likes of you the homosexual would either be dead, or hiding in the closet spreading more of their diseases, and secretly pursuing children.

I love and care about the well being and sanity of current and future generations which is why it is my pleasure to play a key role in eliminating the homosexual activist insanity manifestation permanently and globally despite your desperate attempt to try and make your obvious lies and deceptions the issue.

No, you hide behind a false sense of "love" caring not for anything but your own opinion. Your own sickness is what drives you much like the Westboro frauds. In the meantime, you are both physically weak, and spiritually demented.

BTW, many homosexuals have served in the military with honors. Have you?

 

[Old_Trapper70]

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing,

That right there is a lie. You have agreed with nothing that has been said.

I share facts that back my claims on the foundations of primary issues I address

Again you lie. You have only presented your biased opinion, not "facts" as you claim.

and in this instance the facts which reveal homosexuals and homosexual activists for the compulsive obsessive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be on the foundation of their every issue to do with their filthy little bias agenda that I address which most certainly doesn't qualify me as a hater no matter how desperate you exemplify to be to try and make your every pathetic lie and deception the issue and it's no secret that you like every other homosexual activist on the planet does exactly that because not one of you has so much as a shred of validity when it comes to contesting the very facts I share which again exposes homosexual activists for the obsessive compulsive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be.

Aside from your lies, can you cite with any specificity a lie someone else has told?

But thanks for sharing such a fine example of verifying what the beautiful art work beginning this very thread already reveals.

Oh no, it is we who should be thanking you for showing us what true hatred, and bigotry, is. Sometimes we forget just how depraved mankind is.

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

Without the religious definition of "marriage", or what is normal sexual behavior, what would you have?



Yes, it does reveal your own dishonesty. To paint an entire group with the same paint brush is as dishonest as the ones you claim are "liars", etc.



No, when I call someone like you a liar, or a hater, it is because you are one, and I can prove it. You come to your "conclusions" not based on facts, but on your own hatred, and bigotry. I do not support homosexuality, nor do I attend any form of meetings that do. In fact, there are many things about homosexuality I have actively opposed in the past such as classes in Mass. teaching children about "fisting", or the opposition to blood tests for HIV/AIDS that occurred in the 80's, and 90's. Yet, if left to the likes of you the homosexual would either be dead, or hiding in the closet spreading more of their diseases, and secretly pursuing children.



No, you hide behind a false sense of "love" caring not for anything but your own opinion. Your own sickness is what drives you much like the Westboro frauds. In the meantime, you are both physically weak, and spiritually demented.

BTW, many homosexuals have served in the military with honors. Have you?

Marriage isn't about religion, it is not about what peoples opinions of what normal is, it is about honouring the unity of the one sexual orientation to which we all owe our very existence and that sexual unity is quite obviously exclusively heterosexual unions for those of us that may be a little too slow to figure out something so simple all by ourselves. My pleasure to be here for those in their obvious time of need.

You claim that it is dishonest to share facts that back one's claims on the foundation of primary global issues? That's quite the far stretch even for any homosexual activist to think that they can get away with especially in my presence. That group you speak of paints themselves and I take great pleasure in simply pointing it out because again it is a pleasure to rid the world of the homosexual activist insanity manifestation permanently and globally for the well being and sanity of current and future generations.

You desperately scramble to try and make up lies in the form of vacant un backed claims because you are not able to contest the facts I share that reveal homosexuals and homosexual activists for the obsessive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be on the foundation of their every issue to do with their pathetic little bias agenda just like every other homosexual activist on the planet.

If you are claiming that I do not back my claims with fact then go right ahead and contest the following with so much of a shred of validity instead of continuing to desperately scramble to try and make your every lie and deception the issue.

Historical Defining Moment: Restoring Marriage To A Respectable State Globally And Permanently

Before we dive right into the very foundation of the factual evidence proving the meaning of marriage beyond any shadow of doubt, keep in mind the fact that artificial insemination does not describe a sexual orientation.

Before I continue on I'd also like to point out that leaving marriage in the respectable state that it was created for and in honour of for thousands of years since marriage was created wasn't hurting anyone, but homosexual activists went ahead and made this soon to be short lived mockery of marriage anyway with their every lie and deception when they could have very well accepted the fact that homosexual unions do not equal heterosexual unions and made the wise decision to opt for civil unions in the first place thus saving allot of unneeded headaches and tax dollars.

The factual evidence which proves that homosexual unions do not equal heterosexual unions is quite simply the fact that thanks to heterosexual unions each and every one of us even exists as opposed to the fact that if it were up to homosexual unions to sustain the human race, we would have died off thousands of years ago for weakly being a race of sexually defective. A very distinct significance in difference obviously proving beyond any shadow of doubt that homosexual unions do not even come close to equal heterosexual unions and are quite obviously not even in the same ball park. That homosexual unions are relationships that are among consenting adults, as are heterosexual unions among consenting adults, obviously doesn't detract from the factual evidence proving that homosexual unions do not equal heterosexual unions as clearly demonstrated within this very paragraph.

As I have shared on many previous occasions, thousands of years of only heterosexual unions being honoured with marriage proves beyond any shadow of doubt that marriage is about honouring the significance of the one sexual unity to which we all owe our very existence and as long as we, the human race exists, that significance stands alone by honouring heterosexual unions with what we call marriage because again to make myself very clear it is "exclusively" thanks to heterosexual unions that each and every one of us even exists which is quite obviously a significance worthy of honouring with the distinction of what we call marriage above that of any other kind of sexual unity. Even test tube babies and artificial inseminations wouldn't exist without heterosexual unions existing to sustain the human race with what we call procreation in the first place.

By making this soon to be short lived mockery of marriage, homosexuals and homosexual activists are attempting to degrade the meaning of marriage by trying to obviously make it be about including honouring that if it were up to homosexual unions to sustain the human race we would have died of thousands of years ago for weakly being a race of sexually defective. Even though that homosexuals may have attempted to make a mockery of marriage here and there throughout history, by referring to their relationship of same sex couples as a marriage it was always short lived, snuffed out and discontinued because again marriage was never about honouring homosexual unions. In some instances the homosexual couples were beheaded or murdered in some other way for making such false claims.

Homosexual activist deliberate ignorance towards the meaning of marriage is both insulting and infuriating and it is all because homosexual activists refuse to accept homosexuals for what homosexuals are as well obviously refuse to accept heterosexuals for what heterosexuals are and proof of this is that here homosexuals and homosexual activists are attempting to proclaim that heterosexual unions are no more significant than homosexual unions yet that we exist factually proves otherwise.

As humans in a democratic society, we are all equal and marriage is fair for everyone. Everyone has the right to marry a person born with the opposite sex genital that they themselves are born with because that is what marriage was created for and in honour of. There is only discrimination or inequality when it comes to marriage if someone is being denied the right to marry someone BORN with the opposite sex genital that the individual being denied is BORN with. To be clear, when I say opposite sex genital, I mean a penis is the opposite of a vagina.

As I have shared previously, when it comes to tradition:

It is traditional, since it was once thought that the world was flat (as opposed to before the creation of marriage) and discovered that the world is round (as opposed to marriage being created) it is traditional to refer to the world as round. If someone wants to start calling the world square and claiming that it must be put to a vote because traditions have been known to change, it is obviously a demonstration of refusing to accept the fact that the world is round (as opposed to refusing to accept the fact that marriage is about honouring the unity of the one sexual orientation to which we all owe our very existence) and expecting that everyone should have to call it square if they win the vote even though it is all based upon an obvious lie to begin with because the world is not square just because someone refuses to accept the fact that the world is round. This is what I call abusing the democratic voting system with invalid claims based upon deliberate ignorance towards what fact already reveals.

I have noticed that homosexual activists abused the Supreme Court of Justice in the USA by attempting to make irrelevance to do with tradition the issue by claiming that marriage was once about trading goods or live stalk for wives but that eventually changed because women were being treated as property instead of equal human beings which was an obviously lie and I will explain how that is not anything more than a homosexual activist lie in this very paragraph. It is no lie that at one time goods and live stalk were being exchanged for wives but that was never what marriage was about because the fact remains that before and after goods and live stalk were being traded for wives, marriage was always about honouring the unity of the one sexual orientation to which we owe our very existence. Even when goods were being traded for wives, the marriage itself was always about honouring the unity of heterosexual couples as it always has been for thousands of years since marriage was created.

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[David Jeffrey Spetch]

Personally, I couldn't believe that the USA Supreme Court of Justice was headed by a bunch of untrustworthy gullible and obviously ignorant individuals who could be so easily persuaded to succumb to an obvious lie in the form of yet another homosexual activist deception. I simply couldn't believe it because it is a fact proven by a simple demonstration of factual evidence as revealed within the previous paragraph of this very composition. I have absolutely zero respect for the USA Supreme Court of Justice after revealing themselves to be so untrustworthy and incompetent. I could only ever have respect for them when they announce recognition of the facts I share and criminalize homosexuals making a mockery of marriage, along with every single homosexual couple currently already making a mockery of marriage, their certificates and records to do with such burned and recognition of calling such a marriage voided permanently. As it stands, what kind of an example does a Supreme Court of Justice exemplify to it's citizens when it obviously supports lies and deceptions over fact?!! There is not anything worthy of respect in that for how can anyone respect a Supreme Court of Mockery as opposed to actual justice?!!

Again thousands of years of only heterosexual unions being honoured with marriage proves beyond any shadow of doubt the fact that marriage is about honouring the significance of the one sexual unity to which we all owe our very existence with the deserved distinction above any other kind of sexual orientation unity by honouring exclusively heterosexual unions with what we call marriage. And now after thousands of years of marriage being in a respectable state it was created for and in honour of we suddenly not only have these homosexual activists using their every lie and deception to have succeeded in making this soon to be short lived mockery of marriage over such a short period of time, they are now also attempting to dictate the obvious lie that this soon to be short lived mockery that they make of marriage is irreversible. Which is like a thief robbing a museum and when caught by the police attempting to dictate that the items stolen now belong to the thief.

Refusing to accept a fact is what is called deliberate ignorance. Refusing to accept fact does not change fact and nor does it mean that the fact does not exist. When someone refuses to acknowledge recognition of fact, this is when they, as homosexual activists compulsively and obsessively display such behaviour, reveal that they are up to trying to make their every lie and deception the issue to support an obvious bias agenda.

So as I draw near to the end of this historical composition, this is where homosexual activists will try and make their lies and deceptions the issue once again by attempting such as to label me a hater, a bigot and a homophobe for simply sharing facts that reveal how homosexual activists have for now gotten away with abusing the public, the court systems, the media, our legislation and our elected governing officials with factually proven lies and deceptions. They will not even come close to contesting with so much as a shred of validity the facts I share which reveal homosexuals and homosexual activists / LGBT for the obsessive compulsive liars and deceivers that they prove to be on the very foundation of the issue of marriage. They will simply scramble to continue to try and make their every lie and deception the issue over and over like a broken record that became sickening to listen too so very long ago hence the term homosexual activist insanity manifestation. They make up a bunch of factually proven lies and deceptions because they refuse to accept fact and back up their lies and deceptions with not anything more than more lies and deceptions over and over again and again. Political party trade off's or an incompetent Justice system along with an obviously corrupted main stream media doesn't qualify that the majority of the public supports homosexual activist lies and deceptions no matter the lies and deceptions that homosexual activists compulsively and obsessively attempt to force upon you into attempt to try and make their obvious delusions the issue.

I am not a hater, a bigot or a homophobe. I love and care about the well being and sanity of current and future generations which is why it is my pleasure to play a key role in assuring the restoration of marriage to a respectable state permanently and globally while also putting to rest this modern day homosexual activist insanity manifestation permanently and globally for the well being of the future of the life on this planet. There is so much more lies and deceptions coming from homosexuals and homosexual activists on the foundation of other primary issues but I'll keep the subject for now on marriage to avoid including too many issues into this composition.

I can understand that some people are factually sexually active with one or those born with the same sex genital that they themselves are born with. In some instances this factually does lead them to want to spend their lives with one another as a couple. I can understand that homosexuals as tax payers, they see heterosexuals getting benefits due to legislation that cover their life time partners with such things as medical coverage due to legislation allowing this and I can understand that homosexuals want the same benefit to cover their life time partner because they are every bit as much of a tax payer as every other citizen and rightfully so since they are in a relationship among consenting adults who are not biological siblings.

Same sex civil partnerships is a logical way to accomplish that homosexuals can cover their significant other with such things as medical benefits for example without making a mockery of marriage.

I look forward to seeing marriage inevitably being restored to a respectable state permanently and globally. Have a wonderful day everyone and enjoy the year 2016. I do mean everyone

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Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada

 

[Old_Trapper70]

Marriage isn't about religion, it is not about what peoples opinions of what normal is, it is about honouring the unity of the one sexual orientation to which we all owe our very existence and that sexual unity is quite obviously exclusively heterosexual unions for those of us that may be a little too slow to figure out something so simple all by ourselves. My pleasure to be here for those in their obvious time of need.

You claim that it is dishonest to share facts that back one's claims on the foundation of primary global issues? That's quite the far stretch even for any homosexual activist to think that they can get away with especially in my presence. That group you speak of paints themselves and I take great pleasure in simply pointing it out because again it is a pleasure to rid the world of the homosexual activist insanity manifestation permanently and globally for the well being and sanity of current and future generations.

You desperately scramble to try and make up lies in the form of vacant un backed claims because you are not able to contest the facts I share that reveal homosexuals and homosexual activists for the obsessive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be on the foundation of their every issue to do with their pathetic little bias agenda just like every other homosexual activist on the planet.

If you are claiming that I do not back my claims with fact then go right ahead and contest the following with so much of a shred of validity instead of continuing to desperately scramble to try and make your every lie and deception the issue.

You see, this is the weakness in your cause, as it is with everyone who shares the type of egotism you have. You can C&P long tirades from some website, and obviously not your own words, you make all forms of false accusations, yet when asked to point out one lie told by anyone who opposes your form of hatred you just go on with yet another bigoted rant. No one has denied the traditional form of marriage, no one has denied the need for procreation. What has been questioned here is your intent, and your own bigotry. Nor have you posted anything that shows any one in here to be an "activist" save for your own misguided ideas. Nor have you provided any proof that "all" homosexuals are "obsessive liars deceivers and discriminators.

What you have shown is that you are a liar, and have an obssession about homosexuality. Were you abused as a child, or are you afraid to examine your own sexuality?

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

You see, this is the weakness in your cause, as it is with everyone who shares the type of egotism you have. You can C&P long tirades from some website, and obviously not your own words, you make all forms of false accusations, yet when asked to point out one lie told by anyone who opposes your form of hatred you just go on with yet another bigoted rant. No one has denied the traditional form of marriage, no one has denied the need for procreation. What has been questioned here is your intent, and your own bigotry. Nor have you posted anything that shows any one in here to be an "activist" save for your own misguided ideas. Nor have you provided any proof that "all" homosexuals are "obsessive liars deceivers and discriminators.

What you have shown is that you are a liar, and have an obssession about homosexuality. Were you abused as a child, or are you afraid to examine your own sexuality?

It is no secret the homosexual activists cry wolf with such lies as hater, bigot and homophobe when they realize that they are unable to contest with so much as a shred of validity the facts I share which reveal homosexuals and homosexual activists for the obsessive compulsive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be on the foundation of their every issue to do with their filthy little bias agenda that I address as this one so willingly demonstrates.

Notice how this one evades contesting with so much as a shred of validity what fact already proves but instead desperately scrambles to try and make their every lie and deception the issue just like every other homosexual activist on the planet because the mentality of the homosexual activist globally is just that weak and pathetic.

But thanks again for confirming what the beautiful inspirational art work beginning this very thread already reveals.

love

Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada

 

[Zynni]

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, I share facts that back my claims on the foundations of primary issues I address and in this instance the facts which reveal homosexuals and homosexual activists for the compulsive obsessive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be on the foundation of their every issue to do with their filthy little bias agenda that I address which most certainly doesn't qualify me as a hater no matter how desperate you exemplify to be to try and make your every pathetic lie and deception the issue and it's no secret that you like every other homosexual activist on the planet does exactly that because not one of you has so much as a shred of validity when it comes to contesting the very facts I share which again exposes homosexual activists for the obsessive compulsive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be.

But thanks for sharing such a fine example of verifying what the beautiful art work beginning this very thread already reveals.

love

Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada

Okay, I get it. I've clearly been trolled. Carry on with your nonsense then. I'll be in other threads where people actually want to have discussions.

 

[Old_Trapper70]

It is no secret the homosexual activists cry wolf with such lies as hater, bigot and homophobe when they realize that they are unable to contest with so much as a shred of validity the facts I share which reveal homosexuals and homosexual activists for the obsessive compulsive liars deceivers and discriminators that they prove to be on the foundation of their every issue to do with their filthy little bias agenda that I address as this one so willingly demonstrates.

And again like the good propagandist, and fomentar of hate, you repeat the same false accusations without proof. Just how does one such as yourself expect any kind of "contest" when your ideology is based on a false ASSumption that all homosexuals are "obsessive compulsive liars deceivers and discriminator". As I pointed out before it is your obsession with the homosexual that really seems to be the problem. It has deprived you of rational thought, and the ability to even competently address the situation.

Notice how this one evades contesting with so much as a shred of validity what fact already proves but instead desperately scrambles to try and make their every lie and deception the issue just like every other homosexual activist on the planet because the mentality of the homosexual activist globally is just that weak and pathetic.

You really are quite sad. Tell you what. Instead of your usual irrational rant why not pick one subject, and let us see if that can be addressed. Your mish mash of angry accusations does not make for any form of intelligent discussion.

But thanks again for confirming what the beautiful inspirational art work beginning this very thread already reveals.

"Artwork" does not make for an argument. And one filled with hate does not make for anything "beautiful". Kind of like Mapplethorpe with his sadomasochistic acts, or Andre Serrano's "Piss Christ" "art".

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Amazing since you show none.

 

[dogtowner]

Marriage is about property rights. It grew a religious connotation when the church grew a role in governance. The orientation aspect was just a matter of it not being a matter ever.