Numinus, you can CAPITALIZE AS MUCH as you want that WON'T MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT CONVINCING. lol
No. They aren't arguments. They are FACTS -- something you can't even begin to discern if it sat on your face and defecated.
Duh?
And why should they give up their ancestral homes? Would you give up yours?
Ancestral homes? They were mere serfs in that 'ancestral home' you speak of. They don't own the land, they are there merely to work the land -- and they have been doing so for countless generations.
The jews, however, BOUGHT land from the same arab landlords living in cosmopolitan damascus or someplace else. Their ancestors claimed the land until another power forcibly evicted them. And they have endured CENTURIES OF DIASPORA AND POGROM that would make your palestinian refugee status look like a sunday picnic.
Now they returned. They did so, first, by entirely legitimate means. They fought for england in ww2 on the promise that their right to exist as a people will not be denied. And when the english reneged on their promise, they were forced to fight a war NOT OF THEIR OWN MAKING to further legitimize their claim.
Ancestral homes indeed!
Or rather defending their fellow Arabs from Israeli massacre - you know the massacres that actually happened.
Yikes! Now you are claiming that the arab invasion was in defense of the palestinians -- the same palestinians who were massacring jews during british administration of the palestinian mandate?
I never imagined you're the historical revisionist sort? I suppose the holocaust also didn't happen, eh?
Yea thanks to the weapons supplied by Stalin. Stalin was no stranger to ethnic cleansing.
Twist and dance and run and pirouette as much as you like, you can't disguise the fact that the Israelis massacred civilians, engaged in acts of terror, stole the land from the original inhabitants, and has refused to return the stolen land to this day.
Then its settled. Whatever legitimate claims the palestinians have, the jews have a stronger claim.
The jews have a historical claim to the land that stretches farther than the palestinians.
The jews have legal claims to the land by virtue of positive titles.
The jews have sovereign claims to the land by virtue of the regallian doctrine and the recognition of statehood by the community of nations (it was an overwhelming majority vote in the un).
The jews have superior claims even if your standard is the more primitve 'trial by ordeal'.
Hamas, hezbollah et al have nothing better than goat-herder rhetoric.
Duh?
The Israelis had no right to massacre these people and steal their land - sorry. The Israelis were nothing more than murderers and thieves who were pursuing the same strategy as their ally, one of history's worst mass-killers: Stalin.
You mean the way your founding fathers didn't have a right to massacre the native americans and steal their land?
Tell you what, why don't you give up the entire us territory in favor of the native americans and perhaps, just perhaps, you might have a case on this one. Legal precedents, after all, play a very important role in the rule of law and due process.
Duh?
