Welcome to Trumps "Amerika"

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http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/08/03/welcome-to-donald-trumps-america/

"For over a year, pundits — especially Republicans who have a stake in legitimizing their party’s abject surrender — have been claiming that Trump will eventually pivot from his extremist positions. They said this before the primaries, they said it after the primaries, and they said it even after the GOP convention, when, as on other occasions, Trump was deemed “presidential” for his ability to read a script off a teleprompter. But his moment of relative composure was short-lived. Trump has spent the last week encouraging Russia to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails and attacking the family of a deceased Muslim war veteran — just two examples of “gaffes” that, in a regular election, would destroy a candidacy.

But this is not a regular election, and Trump is never going to pivot.

What Trump is doing — and has been doing all along — is pivoting Americans toward his bigoted and paranoid worldview.What Trump is doing — and has been doing all along — is pivoting Americans toward his bigoted and paranoid worldview. He has made extremism mainstream to the point that David Duke now feels comfortable running for Senate. With his encouragement, his supporters have attacked non-white and non-Christian Americans. And, in its desperation for ratings, the financially struggling U.S. media has been key to normalizing Trump, giving him more airtime than any other candidate and often failing to challenge him on his lies and his bigotry.

But Trump is not just a media creation. He has stoked bigotry and fury over the state of the economy — abetted by the media — but these problems existed long before his campaign. After all, the middle class has been declining since the mid-1970s, when wages began to plummet and manufacturing jobs disappeared. And if Trump loses, these problems — now hitched to a virulent strain of nativist politics — will remain."
 
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I don't like Trump's style and views. Nonetheless, the globalists have been asking for Trump for along time. It's an example of the statement, "They had it coming.". The political parties have totally ignored a lot of American workers and they have answered with Trump.

Nonetheless, I don't think Trump can make good on his promise to return jobs to the USA. However, he might get away with his plan for illegals and crime prevention hence causing massive racial unrest and alienation. In addition, he could mess up things in the middle east worse the W. Bush ever dreamed of.
 
I don't like Trump's style and views. Nonetheless, the globalists have been asking for Trump for along time. It's an example of the statement, "They had it coming.". The political parties have totally ignored a lot of American workers and they have answered with Trump.

Nonetheless, I don't think Trump can make good on his promise to return jobs to the USA. However, he might get away with his plan for illegals and crime prevention hence causing massive racial unrest and alienation. In addition, he could mess up things in the middle east worse the W. Bush ever dreamed of.
Not possible to muck up the ME more than hrc gas.
Globalist sorts want hrc.
 
Not possible to muck up the ME more than hrc gas.
Globalist sorts want hrc.


Russia, China, ISIS, the KKK, White Supremacists, all support Trump, and you want to blame Bush's mess on Hillary.

BTW, tell us again where Trumps line of clothing is made? Just goes to show once again how little you know about the one you are going to vote for, or much of anything else for that matter.

"While Trump and his surrogates denounce free trade, proclaiming that they stand with and for America’s working men and women, they find it hard to explain away the billionaire's own practices for most of his business career. As it turns out, Trump has never shown any qualms about using foreign labor, foreign capital and even foreign-owned companies to service his personal interests and acquire wealth.

Even a cursory examination of Trump’s business dealings reveals that playing in international markets is a matter of routine for him. The Donald J. Trump Collection brand shirts, eyeglasses, perfume, cufflinks and suits are made in low-wage countries like Bangladesh, China, Honduras, and Mexico to keep costs down. And Ivanka Trump’s own product line imports 628 of its 838 items on offer.

Other Trump brand products such as shoes, ballpoint pens, soap and ties have been outsourced to China, Japan, Honduras, Brazil, Norway, Italy and Germany since 2006. And about 1,200 shipments of Trump brand goods have been imported into the United States by foreign companies since 2011.

And for all Trump’s criticisms of foreigners stealing American jobs, nine of Trump’s companies have tried to import at least 1,100 foreign workers to America via short-term visas."

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/05/trump-the-globalist#sthash.uPcbf5d2.dpuf
 
Well I think that you will find the "welcome to the (insert name here)'s America" anywhere you look, which is just to say that you can find anything to substantiate and back up what you believe in these days, at least for the most part. If you think it, you can find a source out there that can be twisted to mean whatever you want it, and so bias just reigns down everywhere you look. I am not necessarily a supporter of Trump, and quite the opposite, but that is just what came to my mind.
 
One of the key issues is illegals in the US and it's been like this for such a long time that each time there is a solution, the illegals find another way. Then there is terrorism, but it's hard to contain with refugees and people bringing in family members or marrying people and bringing them over. You can't control that unless you vet every application.

All this creates more paperwork, plus they have to be approved by Congress, so the ideals take much longer to even get seen on paper.

Basically if employers paid a decent wage and didn't hire illegals for peanuts then there would be jobs. Where I used to live they depended on them as cheap labor to make more profits. Stop that system and you have given the illegals less incentive to cross the border. Fine or imprison those who knowingly hire illegals and more jobs will be come available.
 
One of the key issues is illegals in the US and it's been like this for such a long time that each time there is a solution, the illegals find another way. Then there is terrorism, but it's hard to contain with refugees and people bringing in family members or marrying people and bringing them over. You can't control that unless you vet every application.

All this creates more paperwork, plus they have to be approved by Congress, so the ideals take much longer to even get seen on paper.

Basically if employers paid a decent wage and didn't hire illegals for peanuts then there would be jobs. Where I used to live they depended on them as cheap labor to make more profits. Stop that system and you have given the illegals less incentive to cross the border. Fine or imprison those who knowingly hire illegals and more jobs will be come available.


Just think. Then we could put Trump in jail, LOL

You are aware that it takes 2 years to vet the average refugee applicant, and that long to bring a relative over, right?
 
One of the key issues is illegals in the US and it's been like this for such a long time that each time there is a solution, the illegals find another way. Then there is terrorism, but it's hard to contain with refugees and people bringing in family members or marrying people and bringing them over. You can't control that unless you vet every application.

All this creates more paperwork, plus they have to be approved by Congress, so the ideals take much longer to even get seen on paper.

Basically if employers paid a decent wage and didn't hire illegals for peanuts then there would be jobs. Where I used to live they depended on them as cheap labor to make more profits. Stop that system and you have given the illegals less incentive to cross the border. Fine or imprison those who knowingly hire illegals and more jobs will be come available.
If you enforce the existing laws employers would not be willing to risk illegally employing illegals. Landlords would not risk renting to them. Without income illegals have no incentive to be here and would leave as we have seen when the economy had no jobs for them.
 
I agree that the existing laws should be enforced so that everything is done by the book. That would certainly take care of the problem of the illegals. But history has proven that they will always find a way so I'm not sure how long that solution will hold for.
 
I agree that the existing laws should be enforced so that everything is done by the book. That would certainly take care of the problem of the illegals. But history has proven that they will always find a way so I'm not sure how long that solution will hold for.
It would be hard to enforce the laws unless everyone actually was interested in paying fair wages to all their workers. It's these people who profit from cheap labor who make it nigh impossible to enforce the exisiting laws. Now if they were swiftly prosecuted and locked away, that would probably work.
 
It would be hard to enforce the laws unless everyone actually was interested in paying fair wages to all their workers. It's these people who profit from cheap labor who make it nigh impossible to enforce the exisiting laws. Now if they were swiftly prosecuted and locked away, that would probably work.
I think it's safe to say that ceos have no desire to go to prison.
And it won't take many seeing that fate for the rest to see the light.
And lets face it, the cost of busting a couple ceos is a fraction of busting the tens of thousands they employ.
 
It would be hard to enforce the laws unless everyone actually was interested in paying fair wages to all their workers. It's these people who profit from cheap labor who make it nigh impossible to enforce the exisiting laws. Now if they were swiftly prosecuted and locked away, that would probably work.

Enforcing laws is one way to do things, but who will be the spilling of the beans? Here in the UK people do spill the beans and there is also ACAS that resolves employment disputes over contracts, pay and conditions.

Some people are deterred from coming to the UK now from other poorer EU countries knowing that they may not be able to stay, due to Brexit.
 
Enforcing laws is one way to do things, but who will be the spilling of the beans? Here in the UK people do spill the beans and there is also ACAS that resolves employment disputes over contracts, pay and conditions.

Some people are deterred from coming to the UK now from other poorer EU countries knowing that they may not be able to stay, due to Brexit.
There isn't much question who is using illegals. ICE came to a federal building construction project here once. Someone noticed, yelled la migre and most of the guys ran like there was a tiger chasing them.
It's no secret where to look.
 
If you enforce the existing laws employers would not be willing to risk illegally employing illegals. Landlords would not risk renting to them. Without income illegals have no incentive to be here and would leave as we have seen when the economy had no jobs for them.


Problem here is that is not Trumps plan. In fact, like most of his "plans" they change from audience to audience. First it was 10 points, then 5, and now on his site it is down to 3. The guy is menatally ill, and has no clue as to what he is doing save for depending on racism, bigotry, and war, to further his own desires.
 
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http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/08/03/welcome-to-donald-trumps-america/

"For over a year, pundits — especially Republicans who have a stake in legitimizing their party’s abject surrender — have been claiming that Trump will eventually pivot from his extremist positions. They said this before the primaries, they said it after the primaries, and they said it even after the GOP convention, when, as on other occasions, Trump was deemed “presidential” for his ability to read a script off a teleprompter. But his moment of relative composure was short-lived. Trump has spent the last week encouraging Russia to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails and attacking the family of a deceased Muslim war veteran — just two examples of “gaffes” that, in a regular election, would destroy a candidacy.

But this is not a regular election, and Trump is never going to pivot.

What Trump is doing — and has been doing all along — is pivoting Americans toward his bigoted and paranoid worldview.What Trump is doing — and has been doing all along — is pivoting Americans toward his bigoted and paranoid worldview. He has made extremism mainstream to the point that David Duke now feels comfortable running for Senate. With his encouragement, his supporters have attacked non-white and non-Christian Americans. And, in its desperation for ratings, the financially struggling U.S. media has been key to normalizing Trump, giving him more airtime than any other candidate and often failing to challenge him on his lies and his bigotry.

But Trump is not just a media creation. He has stoked bigotry and fury over the state of the economy — abetted by the media — but these problems existed long before his campaign. After all, the middle class has been declining since the mid-1970s, when wages began to plummet and manufacturing jobs disappeared. And if Trump loses, these problems — now hitched to a virulent strain of nativist politics — will remain."
You were completely humiliated by real events.

No wonder you left this forum, you were a duped dope then.

The reason you don't return is probably because you are still a duped dope.

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