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Wages rise on California farms. Americans still don’t want the job

Discussion in 'Business & Economics' started by PLC1, Mar 22, 2017.

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  1. PLC1

    PLC1 Moderator Staff Member

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    Wages rise on California farms. Americans still don’t want the job
    It's time to revisit the issue of illegal workers from Mexico and points south, but, of course, that won't happen.
     
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    Market forces at work
     
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    Yup.
    If there truly are not enough then expand the number of legal migrant ag workers. If some owners can't make money, that's not a labor problem.
     
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    It kind of touches on an earlier thread we were discussing about mechanisation - it just needs the right incentive and catalyst I guess.
     
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    But there are owners who make money employing legal migrant ag workers.
    So if the others can't how do they afford machines ?
    More to this than meets the eye.
     
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    Get ready to pay more for your veggies then, and don't whine when you do.

    However, there are two points to this story that are being overlooked. The first one is:

    "Today, farmworkers in the state earn about $30,000 a year if they work full time — about half the overall average pay in California. Most work fewer hours." This also begs the question what is "full time"?

    Then there is this:

    "But the raises and new perks have not tempted native-born Americans to leave their day jobs for the fields."

    Why quit a job to go work in the fields for what appears to be equal pay, or less pay?
     
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    Same as they do here which is hire or lease the equipment or part-ownership if there are enough growers that require similar machinery.
     
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    Still takes money
    My point is these folks likely prefer losing the bother. Machines don't complain.
     
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    Speculate to accumulate. USDA assist in things like that don't they?
     
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    I would hope not but they probably do.
    Their job is to insure a safe food chain.
     
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    Machines can't pick everything, and it still takes people to inspect, separate, and package goods.
     
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    then they switch to less labour intensive crops
     
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    You see the trend...
     
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    And if there is no market for those crops?
     
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