US politics and election

Would you be arrested under a law you never heard of?

Quote, " FBI expands agents’ investigative power

The New York Times

First published Jun 12 2011 07:40PM
Updated Jun 12, 2011 11:28PM
Washington • The Federal Bureau of Investigation is giving significant new powers to its roughly 14,000 agents — allowing them more leeway to search databases, go through household trash or use surveillance teams to scrutinize the lives of people who have attracted their attention.

The FBI soon plans to issue a new edition of its manual, called the Domestic Investigations and Operations Guide, according to an official who has worked on the draft document and several others who have been briefed on its contents. The new rules add to several measures taken over the past decade to give agents more latitude as they search for signs of criminal or terrorist activity.

The FBI recently briefed several privacy advocates about the coming changes. Among them, Michael German, a former FBI agent who is now a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union, argued it was unwise to further ease restrictions on agents’ power to use potentially intrusive techniques, especially if they lacked a firm reason to suspect someone of wrongdoing.

"Claiming additional authorities to investigate people only further raises the potential for abuse," German said, pointing to complaints about the bureau’s surveillance of domestic political advocacy groups and mosques and to an inspector general’s findings in 2007 that the FBI had improperly used "national security letters" to obtain information like people’s phone bills.

Valerie E. Caproni, the FBI general counsel, said the bureau had fixed the problems with the national security letters and had taken steps to make sure they would not recur. She also said the bureau — which does not need permission to alter its manual so long as the rules fit within broad guidelines issued by the attorney general — had carefully weighed the risks and the benefits of each change.

Some of the most notable changes apply to the lowest category of investigations, called an "assessment." The category, created in December 2008, allows agents to look into people and organizations "proactively" and without firm evidence for suspecting criminal or terrorist activity.

Under current rules, agents must open such an inquiry before they can search for information about a person in a commercial or law enforcement database. Under the new rules, agents will be allowed to search such databases without making a record about their decision.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/51992858-68/agents-fbi-search-bureau.html.csp

You become a terrorist if you know your constitutional rights. They wish people are idiots so it's easier to rule.

Quote, "Police Trained Nationwide That Informed Americans Are Domestic Terrorists

Law enforcement across the country are being educated that informed Americans who know their rights are dangerous and that cops are their enemy
Paul Joseph Watson, Kurt Nimmo & Alex Jones
Prison Planet.com
Friday, March 13, 2009

A secret report distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center lists Ron Paul supporters, libertarians, people who display bumper stickers, people who own gold, or even people who fly a U.S. flag and equates them with radical race hate groups and terrorists. This is merely the latest example in an alarming trend which confirms that law enforcement across the country is being trained that American citizens are a dangerous enemy.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/police-...formed-americans-are-domestic-terrorists.html

I should have guessed! A fan of infowar.

An absolutely worthless reference source. Sorry. . .not worth my time!

yep, gave up on here some time back...trolls the net looking for conspiracy theory's...

They work for the interest of the big group who wants war. They don't represent the interest of the people.

How could they spend money in this way?

New debt ceiling

The debt ceiling negotiation proves one truth, that this nation is controlled by a covert dictatorship which represents the interest of a rich people group, and the so said law makers don't represent the voters any more.

1. The tax cut law was proposed and carried out by former present Bush. It is proved being a failed policy. In Bush's eight years term, the national debt raised from 6 trillian to 12 trillian. His tax cut law contributes big in debt increasing. Yet, when Obama wanted to recover the tax rate on rich people, the law makers resisted. It proves they are now working for a little group of rich people not for the majority of Americans.

2. War in Iraq and in Afghanistan is another factor to the deficit of the budget. US military expense and war expense add together almost equal to the total expense of all other countries in this world. That's an extra heavy burden of the American tax payers. The strange thing is nobody dares to speak out. No media, no politician dares to finger at it. It's another proof the US has become a covert dictatorship. In it media and politicians all are controlled by the Inside group. They no longer are the voice of people.

3. The victim of the new balance deal will be the American people. More people will lose their jobs and welfare aid in new budget. They will have less money to spend. How could economy recover in this foundation? The economy of US will continue remain in stagnation if not going worse.

4. The result of today's situation is people can't elect their own representatives. The government insiders have controlled the intelligence and the media. They select politicians of their own through rigged election. (because they control the intelligence) They justify the election result through the fake poll of the media.
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May I understand in this way. Obama plans to withdraw troops from Iraq in the end of 2011. But Pentagon has its own plan. They'll stay. So what the officials behave are contradict to the President.

I have said President of the US is a puppet. Obama even couldn't pick up of his own defense secretary. Robert Gates was nominated by Bush. Obama had to keep him as his for more then two and half years. Gates left one month ago. If he stays, he'll finish his career under the full term of Obama's. Besides, the story that Obama was informed to the "situation room" to watch "Operation Geronimo" by Penetta also proves he is a puppet. The real master are those heads of the military and intelligence.

Who won the Republican Presidential Debate?



Active Cities : 6,965

Total Votes : 40,882
National Vote

Paul .....25248
Gingrich ...5863
Cain .......3169
Bachmann ...2438

Romney ...2376
Santorum ..1032
Huntsman ...423
Pawlenty .....333
Votes as of 03:09 PM, 08/14/11

FoxNews / Topix - You Decide
http://www.topix.com/issue/fox/gop-debate-aug11


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The media is trying REALLY hard to hide the fact that Ron Paul is a serious contender


Ron Paul wins a "Who Won the GOP Debate" poll in Fox News, and after seeing how Ron Paul won by a HUGE margin, Fox News decides to quickly erase it. Funny how all of the media sources, both liberal and conservative, are trying so hard to keep him under the rug. Here's the original Fox News poll: Iowa GOP Debate - Topix [40,000 votes, he got 24,000 of them... more than 4 times the guy in second place].

And these things are happening everywhere (meaning, Ron Paul getting a significant amount of support from both sides, and getting pushed off as insignificant.)

And here is the new one Fox started (Ron Paul STILL winning by a landslide): Who Won the GOP Debate? - FoxNews.com. Guess they'll have to erase this one as well.

What do Fox News, CNN, MSNBS, etc, and all these other garbage news sources have in common? They are all run by corporate interest!

Now on to MSNBC:

Once again, the Anti-Ron-Paul rhetoric is everywhere. Notice how MSNBC bolded out every republican candidate in the Iowa Straw Poll... except Ron Paul, as if he were last place or anywhere near there (Yes, they bolded out the last guy as well).

First Read - Bachmann wins Ames straw poll

These aren't just coincidence. Both sides are trying hard, real hard, to hide the fact that Ron Paul is a serious contended.

Open your eyes folks: These things are happening LEFT and RIGHT (meaning everywhere and from both liberal and conservative sources).

http://forum.grasscity.com/politics...ard-hide-fact-ron-paul-serious-contender.html

August 15, 2011
Indecision 2012 - Corn Polled Edition - Ron Paul & the Top Tier

Even when the media does remember Ron Paul, it's only to reassure themselves that there's no need to remember Ron Paul.

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/m...b_ref=share_fblike&fb_source=search_multiline

Military used to be considered as pro-right, pro-GOP. But it's Ron Paul got their votes. Either in 2008 election, or in this one.


Ron Paul raises most campaign cash from military workers

By Catalina Camia, USA TODAY #post-date-updated {border-top: solid 1px #E5E5E5;}
Updated 2011-07-27 11:02 AM

GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul has said the U.S. should get out of Afghanistan and Iraq.

By Patrick Semansky, APGOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul consistently has said that the United States should get out of Afghanistan and Iraq and that American military bases around the world should be closed.

In this campaign, Paul is getting more donations from people who work for the military than either President Obama or any of the other Republican presidential candidates. That analysis comes from Paul's campaign and was confirmed recently by Politifact, the fact-checking project of the St. Petersburg Times.

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...11/07/ron-paul-military-campaign-donations-/1

Everyone Thinks Ron Paul is Right

Former CIA specialist and contributor to The American Conservative Philip Giraldi had some interesting insights today into just how much headway Ron Paul and his message is making with a broad spectrum of Americans:

“I had two interesting experiences over the weekend, totally unrelated to the non-event of Hurricane Irene, which only dropped an inch of rain on northern Virginia. On Friday I went to dinner with a mixed group consisting of the women who are in my wife’s quilting group together with their husbands. All of the men were in their late fifties-early sixties and everyone but me and my wife was an evangelical Christian… Two of the men have been prominent in local Democratic Party circles and the remainder vote Republican. All agreed, to my surprise, that the US economy is broken and that it is the result of the wars and globalism that have marched together hand in hand over the past ten years. They also all agreed, even when they do not support specific policies, that Ron Paul is the only honest man running for the presidency. Which is not to say they all would vote for him, but the approval rating was 100%.”

Mr. Giraldi then moves on to day two of his weekend:

“On Saturday we had a reunion lunch with the CIA Rome Station class of 1980. The last time the whole group was together was shortly before the 2008 election, when everyone but me and my wife indicated that they would be voting for McCain-Palin. This time around it was different… I was kidded about my Ron Paul bumper sticker but everyone was quick to add seriously that Paul was the only honest man running, that he had predicted the economic collapse, and that his message has been consistent. They even agreed emphatically when I quoted Paul’s pledge to bring the troops home from overseas on the day after he is elected. This is coming from Cold Warriors, mind you, men and women who spent careers doing without question whatever their government asked them to do. Again, no one said they would vote for Ron Paul but nor did anyone say they would not.”

Giraldi concludes:

“Which is all to suggest that maybe something is actually going on in the body politic, that people are willing to listen to Ron Paul even though four years ago they would have thought such an idea ridiculous. And he has a passionate base of supporters. Do you remember the scene in the Godfather where Michael Corleone (Al Pacino) sees a Cuban rebel die for his cause and realizes that the insurgents just might win? Recent opinion polls seem to be saying the same thing. Whether or not Dr. Paul can actually win the presidency, his ideas about the state of the US economy and Washington’s catastrophic foreign policy have reached the mainstream and are resonating.”

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/08/29/everyone-thinks-ron-paul-is-right/

Ron Paul's opinion represent the voice of most Americans. That's why he always won big in straw poll.

But he has no chance. Because this country is a covert totalitarian. The election machine is controlled by the Feds. They will use all their resource to suppress Ron Paul.

You seldom saw Ron Paul's winning news in mainstream media. They only report Romney, Perry or Bachmann. The ruling class have their own candidates. They regulate the game. You only learn Paul's news in Internet.

The ruling class takes care for their own interest - war profit. They rule the country by controlled intelligence and media. They select politicians through rigged election and justify the election result through the fake poll done by media.

Unless you reform the election system, the real popular Ron Paul will never have a chance.

Ron Paul identifies America's internal Enemies: AIPAC, PNAC, Trilaterals, CFR, NWO.

Ron Paul The Enemy of America. AIPAC PNAC Trilateral CFR NWO 2012

The world Endorses Ron Paul

Ron Paul Still Ignored - Jon Stewart Daily Show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B0QPcoTZg8&feature=player_embedded

Though they let Ron Paul leads over other candidates in Iowa this time, it’s only a trick. When more and more people show their support to an honest politician that rarely seen these days, the rulers have to compromise a little bit. Otherwise the rigging and suppressing is too evident. However, Ron Paul has no chance because this country is controlled by the tyrants. They will have plots and tricks to rig the election. Watch and notice, you will see finally how corruptive this country is.
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You will have a president obedient to the rulers such like idiot Bush. Or an incompetent one like Obama. None will work for the people.

Iowa Caucus Rigged? - MarmiteMan4



How do you explain Ron Paul finishing third when he was certain to finish first within days of the vote. How did Rick Santorum finish second when he has had barely any support?

SHOCKING PROOF: IOWA GOP RIGGED CAUCUS VOTES

Ron Paul has no chance. The Feds rigged the election to pick up their own puppet because they control the voting system. They justify the result by faked poll because they control media.

People found Ron Paul is the most popular candidate in Internet. Because Internet is open place. Ron Paul got most support from military, that's can't be rigged because the donation is there.

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I still say Paul has no chance because this is a covert totalitarian. They control election system and play you people fool.
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Just look at how 'successful' Ron Paul was against John McCain and Mitt Romney in his bid for the 2008 nomination. He led all kinds of gallup and straw polls, he even led the way in raising funds via internet campaigning...yet how much success did he have in securing the nomination?