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US caught in own web of lies

Discussion in 'Conspiracy Debates' started by Jim415, Apr 18, 2014.

  1. Jim415

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    America has found itself in an untenable situation in the Ukraine. As the second day of military incursions by the coup backed Kiev government proceed in the East, the Obama administration has begun to realize that it has been “blindsided.”

    A presidential candidate is beaten in the streets by neo-Nazi thugs and nothing is done. A government responsible for murdering over 100 of the protestors that backed their takeover is now moving military forces across their country to attack the “babushkas resistance,” the heart of the resistance to the Kiev cabal, led by Russian speaking grandmothers.

    The US position is clearly unsound and if violence unfolds as Kiev intends despite stories of its forces switching sides, the Obama administration will be severely weakened.

    With that weakening, the settlements with Syria and Iran may well fail.

    The situation in Ukraine may well have been orchestrated, not to weaken Russia but to enfeeble the United States. With the empty talk about sanctions and moves against Russia, something else is going on. This is a conspiracy.

    Background

    Early on, newly appointed Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland, a uniquely unqualified individual married to John Kagan, an American “political fixers” whose politics are well to the right of neo-fascism, was recorded planning the coup.

    Many would assume Nuland was taking direction from Secretary of State John Kerry who gets his lead from President Obama. However, those familiar with the fiefdoms inside Washington know that the State Department answers to higher powers than even the president.

    So does the CIA. Thus, last week when CIA Director John Brennan, longtime torture advocate and “strange bedfellow” in the Obama administration was discovered having clandestine meetings with extremist groups in Kiev, it was assumed he represented the President and the National Security Council. Then again, the CIA also answers to higher powers than even the President.

    What is crippling the Obama administration in its mistrust of the American people and its unwillingness to admit that the American government has long been under the control of special interests, is a broad conspiracy recently cited by F. William Engdahl as a force driving the world toward an unsurvivable global war.

    But in Washington, using the term “conspiracy” is death. It is now commonly admitted that false flag terrorism is a part of daily life in contemporary government.

    Even Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh used that term in recent articles on Syria, despite the controlled media in the United States mercilessly attacking anyone who allows a real look “behind the curtain.”

    Only by threats, bribery and intimidation can the press continue to keep the lid on 9/11, Sandy Hook, the Boston Marathon attack, Flight 370 and the other “bread crumbs” that should have led investigative journalists to the inexorable truth. America is a “sugar coated” police state dictatorship. Now that “sugar coating” isn’t what it used to be.

    SSG, The Secret Shadow Government

    The rogue billionaires, Adelson, the Koch brothers, Mitt Romney, those less well known like the Walton family (Walmart) or Dick DeVos (Amway) or Larry Mizel (AIPAC/Key Bank) have the resources to buy America’s Congress, Supreme Court, any regulatory agency and, to more devastating effect, key military commands, particularly nuclear commands, the entire CIA and, of course, the State Department.

    In an odd turn of events Israel has broken with the US and publicly sided with Russia on the Ukrainian controversy. However, not only is the Israel lobby in the US totally behind the cabal in Kiev, Sheldon Adelson and the Koch Brothers, top Israeli political financiers, are the driving force behind US military action against Russia.

    We wonder sometimes if anyone is paying attention at all.

    Was CIA Director John Brennan working for them when he visited the Ukraine? Did he take direction from Senators John McCain and Ted Cruz who have long worked to pressure America into a war with Russia and China?

    Aided by drug cartels and extremist groups in the US, in particular the Mormon Church in the West and John Hagee across wide swaths of backward rural “Taliban America,” as many as 30 of the 50 American states are governed by mob controlled thugs. Moreover, across most of America, militarized local law enforcement suffers the confusion of not knowing who to serve first, CIA drug suppliers, crackpot billionaires or their corporate masters.

    America has a very real Secret Shadow Government, a term coined by Dr. Preston James. Its domestic and foreign policy agenda is based on privatization and fueled with cash. It has become nearly impossible to tell when an initiative out of Washington comes from the “real government” or the “SSG.”

    Mike Ruppert, Dead at 63

    We were told that Michael Ruppert, the former Los Angeles police detective that confronted CIA Director John Deutch in 1996, forcing his resignation based on supported allegations of narcotics trafficking, died, said to be a suicide.

    This was the last time any law enforcement officer in the US stood up to CIA drug dealing as Ruppert spent much of the rest of his life “on the run.”

    Some time ago, Ruppert had phoned me, telling me that if I ever heard he had committed suicide, it would not be true. At one point, after being poisoned, Ruppert fled to Venezuela and lived under the protection of President Chavez.

    The story of Ruppert’s life is an example of what happens to anyone that speaks up. Ruppert was among the first to expose the “SSG.”

    Prisoner of Lies

    America has become a prisoner of its own lies. For the first time in history, the government this week officially denied involvement in the theft of Flight 370 in response to accusations typically pushed aside easily as “conspiracy theories.”

    It didn’t work this time. The US now says it isn’t hiding the missing plane and over 200 passengers on Diego Garcia. What they don’t do is deny refueling the plane.

    This is the first crack, as it were, in the government’s ability to simply turn away from accusations of involvement in terrorism. America’s partnership with Al Qaeda in Syria has signaled an end to that.

    Will the Obama administration, while it still has time, admit it is repeating its horrific errors in Syria? Imagine a four year civil war in the Ukraine. Syria will seem like a summer vacation. The people of Ukraine do not deserve this. They never did.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/04/17/358888/us-caught-in-own-web-of-lies/
     
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    Let me guess ... it's all a conspiracy, right?
     
  3. Jim415

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    I dont think so
     
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    Is it Satan?

    Or, is it those damn corporatists again?
     
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    Could be both
     
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    Wow. Pretzel logic at it's best. How many bogey straw men were in the screed? I lost count.
     
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    Maybe i ought to move this to conspiracy theories....
     
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    i've been listening to alex jones a bit. (even if you dont believ it, its still pretty entertaining)
    I think he was saying the Ukraine situation had more to do with NATO trying to set up a missile shield for europe in the ukraine. Anyone else hear anythign like this?
    Im not sure whats happening, but I feel like we arent presented the truth about that situation.
     
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    I did not hear this but I wouldn't be surprised if they did once Ukraine becomes a NATO member. And is not happening anytime soon. One thing is for sure. The Zio west wants Ukraine to be part of the New World Order and Russia is in the way.
     
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