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Eugenics Are Alive and Well In the United States
Judging by the reaction to a recent report that 148 women were sterilized illegally in California prisons, a little history lesson is in order
By Paul Campos July 10, 201343
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Informed consent is a concept at the core of both liberal democracy and the ethical practice of medicine. That is just one reason why a new report that, between 2006 and 2010, at least 148 women were sterilized illegally in California prisons should deeply disturb us.
The report found the inmates were given tubal ligations without the prison administrators bothering to get the case by case authorization for the procedures, required by law, from a state board. The point of this requirement is to have state officials outside of the prison review whether a proposed sterilization is genuinely consensual. (At least one woman has complained that she was coerced by prison officials into having the procedure).
Judging from the comments being made on even many liberal internet sites regarding this story, it seems a refresher course in one of the darker sides of American history is in order (A typical reaction: “So ridiculous making this procedure so difficult. Every woman who walks in the door of a prison should be encouraged with times cuts and subsidies to get sterilized.”)
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For much of the 20th century, people –usually women – in American prisons and mental institutions were subjected to forced sterilization. In an infamous 1927 Supreme Court opinion, Oliver Wendell Holmes enthusiastically approved of this practice, saying of the coerced tubal ligation of a teenaged girl that “three generations of imbeciles are enough.” (The evidence for the girl’s “imbecility” consisted of the fact that she had had a child out of wedlock after being raped by a relative).
The practice of legal forced sterilization was an outgrowth of the eugenics movement – the idea that the genetic quality of human populations should be improved by selective breeding practices, whereby society’s elites would curtail unnecessary reproduction by the “feeble-minded” (a term that in the early decades of the 20th century was used as a catch-all for what the elites deemed socially undesirable people).
The eugenics movement in the United States was largely discredited by the fact that eugenics was central to both the theory and practice of Nazism. Nevertheless, California in particular has a long and sordid history of forced sterilization: sterilizations were forced on prisoners as late as the mid-1960s, in part because California’s long-time attorney general was a vociferous supporter of the practice, and it wasn’t formally outlawed until 1979.
The law that was ignored in the case of the 148 prisoners over the past few years.

WHAT I PROPOSE is far more humane TEX!
 
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The above excerpt seems to be the crux of her philosophy that you are referring to. I disagree with it. If Planned Parenthood advocates voluntary family planning I see no problem, but I have not seen any media objection that states that PP advocates forced eugenics in the way Sanger does.
You will not see anything "objective" in the media concerning the murder of unborn children.

Obviously the MSM is more than just pro-abortion. However, PP to this day remains true to Margret Sanger's mission.

This year Nancy Pelosi was awarded Planned Parenthood's Margaret Sanger Award.

The award is the group’s “highest honor” and is named for a woman who believed in breeding better humans through eugenics.

Or, a better way of understanding Margaret Sanger's mission is the extermination of less desirable members of society.

Below is a quote a quote from Margaret Sanger's "Pivot of Civilization". You can find other wacko quotes from her here.

"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born."

In reference to blacks, immigrants, indigents and the poor.

You can also hear Margaret Sanger's mission echoed in leftist extremist like SCOTUS Justice Ruth Bader-Ginsburg.

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of."

-Justice Ruth Bader-Ginsburg

Interview with NYT Magazine July 7, 2009
The Place of a Woman on the Court

Also, PP intentionally places their clinics in poorer neighborhoods, specifically black neighborhood.

Now, I supposed it can be argued that this is for providing "healthcare" for poor women. But, if you read a little bit about just who Margaret Sanger was, you can clearly see her mission in play to this very day.
 
You will not see anything "objective" in the media concerning the murder of unborn children.

Obviously the MSM is more than just pro-abortion. However, PP to this day remains true to Margret Sanger's mission.

This year Nancy Pelosi was awarded Planned Parenthood's Margaret Sanger Award.

The award is the group’s “highest honor” and is named for a woman who believed in breeding better humans through eugenics.

Or, a better way of understanding Margaret Sanger's mission is the extermination of less desirable members of society.

Below is a quote a quote from Margaret Sanger's "Pivot of Civilization". You can find other wacko quotes from her here.

"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born."

In reference to blacks, immigrants, indigents and the poor.

You can also hear Margaret Sanger's mission echoed in leftist extremist like SCOTUS Justice Ruth Bader-Ginsburg.

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of."

-Justice Ruth Bader-Ginsburg

Interview with NYT Magazine July 7, 2009
The Place of a Woman on the Court

Also, PP intentionally places their clinics in poorer neighborhoods, specifically black neighborhood.

Now, I supposed it can be argued that this is for providing "healthcare" for poor women. But, if you read a little bit about just who Margaret Sanger was, you can clearly see her mission in play to this very day.
What pulled your chain? I already said that I disagree with Sanger's eugenic philosophy. You don't need to lecture me on her ideas on eugenics.

PP has stated that it finds Sanger's views objectionable. Seriously, shame on them for naming an award after her. .

"...Planned Parenthood is the largest U.S. provider of reproductive health services, including cancer screening, HIV screening and counseling, contraception, and abortion. Contraception accounts for 35% of PPFA's total services and abortions account for 3%..."

I think PP does much more good than harm, however I think that abortion is the worst form of birth control.
 
What pulled your chain? I already said that I disagree with Sanger's eugenic philosophy. You don't need to lecture me on her ideas on eugenics.

PP has stated that it finds Sanger's views objectionable. Seriously, shame on them for naming an award after her. .

"...Planned Parenthood is the largest U.S. provider of reproductive health services, including cancer screening, HIV screening and counseling, contraception, and abortion. Contraception accounts for 35% of PPFA's total services and abortions account for 3%..."

I think PP does much more good than harm, however I think that abortion is the worst form of birth control.
Not claiming that someone is "pulling my chain" Lag ...

You were the on who stated: "I have not seen any media objection that states that PP advocates forced eugenics in the way Sanger does."

I was simply trying to help you away from the low information crowd by giving you some facts on the topic.

But, obviously that may be much easier said than done.

The false stats you posted above is another lie from the MSM and has been debunked several times using PP's own data.

Media Hides Fact: Planned Parenthood Does 40% of Abortions

Don't like the source? Search another. There is plenty of data out there that debunks that MSM lie using PP's own data.

Also, there is a reason that many states are now passing legislation to strip certain Planned Parenthood clinics of federal family planning money and it is not for providing healthcare to women!

Kansas Can Strip Planned Parenthood of Federal Funding, Appeals Court Says
 
”Texas_tea” said:
You were the on who stated: "I have not seen any media objection that states that PP advocates forced eugenics in the way Sanger does."

I was simply trying to help you away from the low information crowd by giving you some facts on the topic.

Obviously I was referring to PP above. You gave a Ginsburg quote and facts about Sanger's ideals, not PP policy, which does not support Sanger's eugenics.
”Texas_tea” said:
The false stats you posted above is another lie from the MSM and has been debunked several times using PP's own data.

Media Hides Fact: Planned Parenthood Does 40% of Abortions

Don't like the source? Search another. There is plenty of data out there that debunks that MSM lie using PP's own data.
Ya can't pull a fast one like that. I found another source ironically in the same paragraph as the one you quote:

"When using the national abortion numbers from the Guttmacher Institute, Planned Parenthood does 27.5 percent of all abortions in the United States"

The facts are that PP abortions account for 3% of PP services. It is a small part of PP services. The fact that PP does 27.5% of all abortions simply means that 72.5% are done outside PP. So, I did not state false stats; you gave a false interpretation of the stats.
 
Geez 27.5% of all ? Thats creepy. But they must have one mother of a budget to do 270000 some kdd abortions on onlt 3% of it. Who do they have performing them, illegal aliens ? Space aliens ? Min wage day laborers ?
 
Geez 27.5% of all ? Thats creepy. But they must have one mother of a budget to do 270000 some kdd abortions on onlt 3% of it. Who do they have performing them, illegal aliens ? Space aliens ? Min wage day laborers ?
They deal with a lot of women and their needs (11,383,900 services). It does add up doesn't it.
"In 2009, Planned Parenthood provided 4,009,549 contraceptive services (35% of total), 3,955,926 sexually transmitted disease services (35% of total), 1,830,811 cancer related services (16% of total), 1,178,369 pregnancy/prenatal/midlife services (10% of total), 332,278 abortion services (3% of total), and 76,977 other services (1% of total), for a total of 11,383,900 services. The organization also said its doctors and nurses annually conduct 1 million screenings for cervical cancer and 830,000 breast exams."
 
Geez 27.5% of all ? Thats creepy. But they must have one mother of a budget to do 270000 some kdd abortions on onlt 3% of it. Who do they have performing them, illegal aliens ? Space aliens ? Min wage day laborers ? Based on there being about a million abortions a yrar and PP having a bollipn budget (2008-09 per wiki just using round numbets) they are doing their 270000 anorys for 30 million or $111 a pop. Thats not very much unless some of those expenses are shifted out if the abortion account as some sort of shared expense.
 
Geez 27.5% of all ? Thats creepy. But they must have one mother of a budget to do 270000 some kdd abortions on onlt 3% of it. Who do they have performing them, illegal aliens ? Space aliens ? Min wage day laborers ? Based on there being about a million abortions a yrar and PP having a bollipn budget (2008-09 per wiki just using round numbets) they are doing their 270000 anorys for 30 million or $111 a pop. Thats not very much unless some of those expenses are shifted out if the abortion account as some sort of shared expense.
Most US abortions are medically induced. You don't need a space alien to write a prescription or offer a pill. If you want to know where they get their budget, look it up on the web.
 
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Geez 27.5% of all ? Thats creepy. But they must have one mother of a budget to do 270000 some kdd abortions on onlt 3% of it. Who do they have performing them, illegal aliens ? Space aliens ? Min wage day laborers ? Based on there being about a million abortions a yrar and PP having a bollipn budget (2008-09 per wiki just using round numbets) they are doing their 270000 anorys for 30 million or $111 a pop. Thats not very much unless some of those expenses are shifted out if the abortion account as some sort of shared expense.

If you follow the money ... and you always should ... the "abortion services" does not include those procedures they refer out ... that is in-house services only
 
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