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Racist white people are killing black babies

Discussion in 'Health' started by counterfiat, Apr 23, 2011.

  1. Openmind

    Openmind Well-Known Member

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    what do you call WHAT?
     
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    a "choice" to murder the baby instead of demonstrate responsibility.
     
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    There is no "murder" of a cluster of cells.
    You can repeat your "murder" statement at nauseum, it doesn't make it true.

    And the best, most rational way to demonstrate responsibility is to use effective birth control, and if this doesn't work, early term abortion is not only perfectly legal, it is also the best way for so many women who cannot assume the responsibility of another life to prevent a much greater drama that may last a life time and coumpound the drama of an unwanted child being brought to this world and then lack basic necessity and potential.
     
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    denying a moral truth doesn't make it moral.

    abortion on demand is birth control all too often especially for those who have had more than one.
     
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    See liberals call it womans right to choose. So is wearing your seat belt is a right to choose but the ACLU will never take the seat belt laws to the U.S Supreme court and it violates the consitution on the right to choose and the government cant tell you what to wear.
     
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    I'm quite aware of the difference, but both can place the child in horrible circumstances.

    I wouldn't eliminate anyone, personally, because I don't have the power to do so.
    But I would support the decision of women to choose to not have children.
     
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    Nope, because that's not what I suggested at all.
     
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    complaining about too many people puts you in dubious company
     
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    Oh...so are you saying if you HAD the power to eliminate people, you would do so?

    Supporting a woman's right to murder her unborn child is immoral and just plain stupid. You see I cherish human life, while you baby killers do not. You think you are being so 'progressive' by supporting a mother's right to murder her baby if she so chooses. No one has the 'right' to murder anyone.

    Would you like it if I had the 'right' to decide whether you live or die?
     
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    You don't even want to PARTICIPATE in helping LIVING, children and their parents survive the crazy world of Runaway capitalism. . . Because you believe in "individual responsibility" no matter what. . . Except when it is a Woman's individual responsibility to choose whether to terminate a pregnancy at the earliest possible stage or to bring a child in this world which she knows full well she couldn't provide for!

    And you don't seem to mind killing people in wars (including children, including potentially millions if they happen to live in Iran!), or to put people to death because they have been accused of a crime. . .even if they might be innocent!

    You can pretend to be "for life" when it regards a clustee of cells that would NEVER survive outside a womb, but your kind of "pro-life" turns into REAL murderers when face with the decision to kill LIFE which stands in your way, evenwith your own guns, if they happen to "invade" your home. . . Because, affter all, you have the right to bare arms. . . To kill!
     
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    if she knew she could not provide for the child, its irresponsible to get pregnant.

    there is an obvious difference between kill and murder
     
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    Agreed. So, you preconize coumponding one irresponsible behavior (or one unfortunate accident) by committing a much longer lasting irresponsibility?

    What is even more stupid is that, many of the same people who are against a woman's right to choose, and promote "responsible reproductive behavior" are the same people who fight against the VERY responsible behavior of using effective birth control to PREVENT the worse outcome of early term abortion!

    Killing a "potential" thief who is running away from your Neighbor's backyard is murder.

    Subjecting innocent people to years in jail, and end up "executing " them for a crime they may not have committed (and, in my eyes, even for crimes they have committed) is legalized murder.
     
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    getting pregnant is no accident

    and some people see abortion as birth control.


    thats what we have courts to decide


    thats why we have a rigorous process for capital crimes.
     
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