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North Korean leader Kim Jong Il, 69, has died

Discussion in 'World Politics' started by steveox, Dec 19, 2011.

  1. steveox

    steveox Well-Known Member

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    SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — Kim Jong Il, North Korea's mercurial and enigmatic leader whose iron rule and nuclear ambitions dominated world security fears for more than a decade, has died. He was 69.
    Kim's death 17 years after he inherited power from his father was announced Monday by the state television from the North Korean capital, Pyongyang. The country's "Dear Leader" — reputed to have had a taste for cigars, cognac and gourmet cuisine — was believed to have had diabetes and heart disease.
    North Korea has been grooming Kim's third son to take over power from his father in the impoverished nation that celebrates the ruling family with an intense cult of personality.
    South Korea put its military on "high alert" and President Lee Myung-bak convened a national security council meeting after the news of Kim's death.
    In a "special broadcast" Monday, state media said Kim died of a heart ailment on a train due to a "great mental and physical strain" on Saturday during a "high intensity field inspection."

    http://news.yahoo.com/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-il-69-died-030848603.html

    Its All Clintons fault when he allowed him get nuclear weapons With appeasement,amnesty and diplomacy.
     
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    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    China is probably rather glad.
     
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    The radical left is in mourning today due to Kim's death. So sad.....

    The wonderful Marxist paradise he helped build in N. Korea is so admired...by the radicals. They wish BO had dictatorial powers so he could make the USA just like N. Korea. So sad....

    Please accept my condolences lefties...

    MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!
     
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    PLC1 Moderator Staff Member

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    Big Brother died.

    Before he died, he passed the big brotherhood on to his son.

    So now, the unfortunate people of North Korea still live in a failed state, dependent on the outside world for the food they eat, yet untrustful of that outside world because they only hear what Big Brother tells them.

    Be thankful that you live in freedom, and ever vigilant that our own government respects that freedom.
     
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    I've seen several headlines describing how North Korean citizens are crying inconsolably at the death of Kim Jong Il. And there's a piece of video of a large Korean woman, sobbing and wailing as she makes the announcement of Kim's passing.

    When my wife saw that, she was amused.

    My wife was born and raised in mainland China, came here and got her green card after the Tian An Men Square uprisings. Now she's a naturalized U.S. citizen.

    She says that, when Chairman Mao died in 1976, everybody went around sobbing and wailing... but you never saw any actual tears in anyone's eyes. You had to wail and cry, because if you didn't, you risked being thrown in jail.

    That was how Communist China was back then. I wonder if North Korea is any different?
     
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    China should had invaded them while they had a chance cause more chaos. Im telling you his son is very crazy. Hes like an immature young man. He thinks nukes are toys to him. If you think IRAN has a crazy leader just wait til his son takes over!
     
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    We are Free-ish, government whittles away at our freedom 24/7/365, taking an occasional chunk here or there.
     
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    you actually think he is in charge , lol I highly doubt that...for now he is just a puppet of others in charge...and you do know his dad was nuts right?
     
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    no nation would ever be "free" to meet your standards unless it was you on a island alone.
     
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    Yeah but his son is much more dangerous. His son still plays with toys like on this commerical

     
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    His father kidnaps move producers to make a new Godzilla Movie for him , Build the nukes over feeding his people and sand a S Korean Sub...so far he wins over plays with toys.
     
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    How predictable that anyone who opposes imperial fiat is labelled crazy.

    As if there is anything crazy about wanting to protect yourself from a dangerous irrational rogue state such as the US which, like Hitler, invades countries without cause.

    The US of course bombed the northern part of Korea mercilessly in the Korean War, including
    the hydro-electric dams and killed many hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of women
    and children i.e business as usual.

    Anyone who knows the real history of Korea over the last 1000 years will know that only
    the north has maintained the struggle to repel the invaders.

    Of course none of you have been to North Korea, and so are all to ready completely
    believe the official propaganda model.

    Comrade Stalin
     
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    When his son bowed down hes telling him to kiss my ass.
    And look at women crying, Its fake!

    Not one tear! nobody cries like that!
    And look at this acting job by a anchor woman
     
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    Oh, yes, and North Korea is so much better off than South Korea as a result.
     
  15. Stalin

    Stalin Well-Known Member

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    I doubt that they spit on US citizens like they do in South Korea

    As well, they do not have this problem

    "...
    Crimes committed by US soldiers were found as early as when US troops were first stationed in south Korea. According to the south Korean government's official statistics, 50,082 crimes were committed by US soldiers from 1967 to 1998 (including those by soldiers' families), and 56,904 US soldiers were involved (including soldiers' families) in these crimes. The statistics imply that the actual figure may be higher if take into account those cases not handled by the south Korean police. Based on the statistics, the total number of crimes committed by US soldiers since September 8, 1945 (when they were first stationed in Korea) is estimated to be around 100,000. Unfortunately the south Korean government does not have statistics on US soldiers' crimes committed before 1967, because SOFA (Status of Forces Agreement) went into effect in 1967, allowing the south Korean court jurisdiction over crimes committed by US soldiers with narrow and limited application.

    So, from 1945 to 1967, the US had full authority in court. south Koreans were even subjected to American rulings (of course, in English language). And during 1945-1948, when the US military government took control over the south Korean government, a judge was an active US soldier, with no jury system although the court followed American court system. Many problems aroused including language barrier, lack of cultural understanding and even prejudice on the part of the judge, unfair practices on the part of interpreters.


    Study by Ministry of Justice of south Korea shows that among the 39,452 cases (45,183 US soldiers involved) of crimes committed by US soldiers from 1967 to 1987, south Korea was able to exercise its jurisdiction only in 234 cases, punishing only 351 US soldiers. Among them, 84 US soldiers were convicted of rape and 89 US soldiers were convicted of murder and robbery. Taking into account the fact that rape cases were more common before 1967, and that many rape cases were intentionally hidden and forgotten, the actual number of rape cases committed by US soldiers will be much higher than what official figures suggest.

    1980, the year of civilian uprising in Kwangju alone, over 1,679 crimes committed by US soldiers were reported.

    Due to the military dictator, Chun Doo Hwan’s martial law at the time, south Korea lost its jurisdiction that year. Not even a single case was handled in south Korean court.

    Countless cases of rape were committed by US soldiers, including a woman gang raped by 4 soldiers' in March 1946, a 14-year-old schoolgirl raped in 1956, a daughter and a mother both raped in 1967, a woman raped by 8 soldiers in the mountains in 1971, a month pregnant teacher raped in 1986 by 5 soldiers in the middle of Team Spirit military exercise, a handicapped schoolgirl sexually harassed in 1996, and a 6-year-old girl sexually harassed in May 1997.

    http://www.iacenter.org/Koreafiles/ktc-civilnetwork.htm
     
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