More Evidence Contradicting the Climate Change


So there is a mass extinction going on, but all of the species going extinct are undiscovered. Are you completely unable to recognize alarmist claptrap when you see it? Mass extinction of undiscovered species....what sort of idiot believes that crap?...oh...never mind...I know exactly what sort of idiot believes that sort of bullshit.


This guy consistently proves he is one f**ked up individual. OK Asshole, show where it says that " all of the species going extinct are undiscovered".

Lord, you are a waste of oxygen.
 
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You know, this one bears repeating....

In Federalist no.83.... James Madison goes on how the general welfare clause may be abused... He states



So here is one of the very founders of the nation painting what you believe government should be as a worst case scenario for an out of control congress subverting, corrupting, and polluting the principles upon which this nation was founded. You are so far left that I doubt that someone like you could even conceive of the principles upon which this nation was founded...You certainly would not like living under a government that strictly followed the constitution...scratch government teachers...scratch government schools....scratch welfare checks....and so much more that the congress has foisted upon us.

The sad thing is that I bet you think you are free....hell you can't even begin to grasp what actual freedom is all about.

Once more, to the founders, what you believe government should be was a worst case scenario that was so far outside of their thinking that they could barely scratch the surface.


Freaking idiot. How does this disprove what Franklin, and the Congress, did, or what Jefferson proposed as to taxation?

Additionally, Federalist #83 was written by Hamilton, had to do with trials.

You are a waste of time.

Anyway, since it is obviously you still have your head up your ass, the quote to which you ignorantely, and erroneously, refer to was written by Madison in reference to the "Cod Fishery Bill" on February 7, 1792, and was referring to subsidies for cod fisherman
 
This guy consistently proves he is one f**ked up individual. OK Asshole, show where it says that " all of the species going extinct are undiscovered".

Lord, you are a waste of oxygen.

You really do have a shallow mind don't you? Are you incapable of thinking anything through? You believe, and claim that we are in the midst of a mass extinction...that means that 1000 to 5000 species are going extinct every year....you can't name one that went extinct in the past year...or the year before...or the year before...that doesn't alter the fact that in order for a mass extinction to be happening, 1000 to 5000 species still went extinct in the past year, and the year before, and the year before and so on...therefore all the species going extinct, according to you and the idiots you get your information from must be claiming that the only species who are going extinct are species that haven't been discovered?

Logic isn't your strong suit huh.....not to worry....it never is for socialists...
 
Freaking idiot. How does this disprove what Franklin, and the Congress, did, or what Jefferson proposed as to taxation?

And on and on....not having the slightest clue as to what Jefferson thought of taxing the individual....and the imposition of federal taxes...

"As to the new Constitution... Would it not have been better to assign to Congress exclusively the article of imposts for federal purposes, and to have left direct taxation exclusively to the States? I should suppose the former fund sufficient for all probably events, aided by the land office." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787. ME 6:395

"Calculation has convinced me that circumstances may arise and probably will arise wherein all the resources of taxation will be necessary for the safety of the state. For though I am decidedly of opinion we should take no part in European quarrels, but cultivate peace and commerce with all, yet who can avoid seeing the source of war in the tyranny of those nations who deprive us of the natural right of trading with our neighbors?... War requires every resource of taxation and credit." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1788. ME 7:224

Jefferson wanted congress to be able to lay taxes in case the money were needed for defense....not so that wealth could be transferred from the wealthy to the poor.

"The suppression of unnecessary offices, of useless establishments and expenses enabled us to discontinue internal taxes. These covering our land with officers and opening our doors to their intrusions, had already begun that process of domiciliary vexation which, once entered, is scarcely to be restrained from reaching successively every article of produce and property." --Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural, 1805. ME 3:376

And the fact remains that none of his thoughts on taxation were encoded into the Constitution.



Additionally, Federalist #83 was written by Hamilton, had to do with trials.

Whooooohoooo...you found a reference mistake...do you have a special victory dance when you find such...and perhaps punctuation errors.....the fact remains that what you believe to be good government was described as a worst case scenario by the founders of the nation....read again....

"If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion in to their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every State, county, and parish and pay them out of the public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision of the poor . . . Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited government established by the people of America."

You are a waste of time.

I am not surprised you feel that way...not being a marxist myself and all...

Anyway, since it is obviously you still have your head up your ass, the quote to which you ignorantely, and erroneously, refer to was written by Madison in reference to the "Cod Fishery Bill" on February 7, 1792, and was referring to subsidies for cod fisherman

You think he was worried about the fed building schools, hiring teachers, and provisioning the poor only in the case of cod fishermen?...again with the very narrow, shallow thinking....scratch that...not thinking at all...like I said, you are so far left that you can't even concieve of the principles upon which this nation was founded.
 
You really do have a shallow mind don't you? Are you incapable of thinking anything through? You believe, and claim that we are in the midst of a mass extinction...that means that 1000 to 5000 species are going extinct every year....you can't name one that went extinct in the past year...or the year before...or the year before...that doesn't alter the fact that in order for a mass extinction to be happening, 1000 to 5000 species still went extinct in the past year, and the year before, and the year before and so on...therefore all the species going extinct, according to you and the idiots you get your information from must be claiming that the only species who are going extinct are species that haven't been discovered?

Logic isn't your strong suit huh.....not to worry....it never is for socialists...

Sorry fool but once again you fail as always. I asked you to show where the article states that "all of the species going extinct are undiscovered" as you claimed, and you go off on some childish rant offering no proof, just more false claims. Nothing new there for the idiot class. BTW, post where I said we are in the middle of a "mass extinction".

Intelligence is nothing ever used by neocons such as yourself, just "instinct" comparable to that of the basic primate mind.
 
And on and on....not having the slightest clue as to what Jefferson thought of taxing the individual....and the imposition of federal taxes...

"As to the new Constitution... Would it not have been better to assign to Congress exclusively the article of imposts for federal purposes, and to have left direct taxation exclusively to the States? I should suppose the former fund sufficient for all probably events, aided by the land office." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787. ME 6:395

"Calculation has convinced me that circumstances may arise and probably will arise wherein all the resources of taxation will be necessary for the safety of the state. For though I am decidedly of opinion we should take no part in European quarrels, but cultivate peace and commerce with all, yet who can avoid seeing the source of war in the tyranny of those nations who deprive us of the natural right of trading with our neighbors?... War requires every resource of taxation and credit." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1788. ME 7:224

Jefferson wanted congress to be able to lay taxes in case the money were needed for defense....not so that wealth could be transferred from the wealthy to the poor.

"The suppression of unnecessary offices, of useless establishments and expenses enabled us to discontinue internal taxes. These covering our land with officers and opening our doors to their intrusions, had already begun that process of domiciliary vexation which, once entered, is scarcely to be restrained from reaching successively every article of produce and property." --Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural, 1805. ME 3:376

And the fact remains that none of his thoughts on taxation were encoded into the Constitution.





Whooooohoooo...you found a reference mistake...do you have a special victory dance when you find such...and perhaps punctuation errors.....the fact remains that what you believe to be good government was described as a worst case scenario by the founders of the nation....read again....

"If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion in to their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every State, county, and parish and pay them out of the public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision of the poor . . . Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited government established by the people of America."



I am not surprised you feel that way...not being a marxist myself and all...



You think he was worried about the fed building schools, hiring teachers, and provisioning the poor only in the case of cod fishermen?...again with the very narrow, shallow thinking....scratch that...not thinking at all...like I said, you are so far left that you can't even concieve of the principles upon which this nation was founded.


Another idiot response from the mindless primate. The question was not about who should lay the taxation, it was about who should be taxed, and for what purpose. However, in your infantile mind, you again show your total lack of understanding, or even comprehension of the the topic:

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch15s32.html

"It should seem then that it must be because of the enormous wealth of the proprietors which places them above attention to the increase of their revenues by permitting these lands to be laboured. I am conscious that an equal division of property is impracticable. But the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property, only taking care to let their subdivisions go hand in hand with the natural affections of the human mind. The descent of property of every kind therefore to all the children, or to all the brothers and sisters, or other relations in equal degree is a politic measure, and a practicable one. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise. Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right. The earth is given as a common stock for man to labour and live on. If, for the encouragement of industry we allow it to be appropriated, we must take care that other employment be furnished to those excluded from the appropriation. If we do not the fundamental right to labour the earth returns to the unemployed."

Now, I quite well understand the limited abilities of one such as yourself having been deprived of the talent of actually comprehending the written word, and being devoid of any form of conscience as to the misery of others, however, you once again have failed to provide any proof for your depravity, just more *********.

But then, what can one expect from one who lacks even the basic comprehension of what "Marxism" is, or even its lack of presence in the modern world. Why, to this person with such a limted knowledge of the subject, Christ Himself was one of those dreaded "Marxists". As to the "Marxist" Jefferson, and his ideas of education:

http://www.libertarianism.org/publi...ions/thomas-jefferson-public-education-part-1

“A Bill for the More General Diffusion of Knowledge.” In Notes on the State of Virginia (written in 1781), Jefferson summarized his educational plan as follows:

"This bill proposes to lay off every county into small districts of five or six miles square, called hundreds, and in each of them to establish a school for teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic. The tutor to be supported by the hundred, and every person in it entitled to send their children three years gratis, and as much longer as they please, paying for it. These schools to be under a visitor [i.e., superintendent], who is annually to choose the boy of best genius in the school, of those whose parents are too poor to give them further education, and to send him forward to one of the grammar schools [high schools, in effect] of which twenty are proposed to be erected in different parts of [Virginia], for teaching Greek, Latin, geography, and the higher branches of numerical arithmetic. Of the boys thus sent in any one year, trial is to be made at the grammar schools one or two years, and the best genius of the whole selected, and continued six years, and the residue dismissed. By this means twenty of the best geniuses will be raked from the rubbish annually, and be instructed, at the public expence, so far as the grammar schools go."

The next stage of this filtering process, Jefferson goes on to explain, occurs when half the students supported at public expense in grammar schools are dismissed after six years, perhaps to become teachers themselves. The remaining students then receive scholarships to study for three years at the College of William and Mary. (For various reasons, Jefferson later became disillusioned with his alma mater and substituted the University of Virginia, which he founded in 1819,
instead.)

Now, that was on the State level. The "Marxist" Jefferson, as President, along with the "Marxist" Congress, also signed into law this little tidbit which placed the Federal Government in the midst of education supported by the Fed:

http://www.britannica.com/topic/Northwest-Ordinances

"The minimum land sale was set at one square mile (640 acres), and the minimum price per acre was $1. (Congress hoped to refill the treasury by land sales in this region, but the requirement of $640 in cash eliminated many potential buyers.) One section in each township was to be set aside for a school. These procedures formed the basis of American public land policy until the Homestead Act of 1862."
 
Sorry fool but once again you fail as always. I asked you to show where the article states that "all of the species going extinct are undiscovered" as you claimed, and you go off on some childish rant offering no proof, just more false claims. Nothing new there for the idiot class. BTW, post where I said we are in the middle of a "mass extinction".

Intelligence is nothing ever used by neocons such as yourself, just "instinct" comparable to that of the basic primate mind.

Who needs an article?....use your brain...you claim that 1000 to 5000 species are going extinct every year....that is what a mass extinction is...you can't name any that have gone extinct in the past year, or the year before that...or the year before that....and yet you believe a mass extinction is happening....if the 1000 to 5000 species that went extinct last year...and the year before...and the year before can't be named, they must be undiscovered....so your claim is that while a mass extinction is happening, no one can name the species because they appear to be undiscovered...

The proof that there is no mass extinction going on is your inability to name even one species that went extinct last year, or the year before, or the year before and so on while the very definition of a mass extinction is 1000 to 5000 species or more going extinct every year...
 
Another idiot response from the mindless primate. The question was not about who should lay the taxation, it was about who should be taxed, and for what purpose. However, in your infantile mind, you again show your total lack of understanding, or even comprehension of the the topic:

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch15s32.html

"It should seem then that it must be because of the enormous wealth of the proprietors which places them above attention to the increase of their revenues by permitting these lands to be laboured. I am conscious that an equal division of property is impracticable. But the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property, only taking care to let their subdivisions go hand in hand with the natural affections of the human mind. The descent of property of every kind therefore to all the children, or to all the brothers and sisters, or other relations in equal degree is a politic measure, and a practicable one. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise. Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right. The earth is given as a common stock for man to labour and live on. If, for the encouragement of industry we allow it to be appropriated, we must take care that other employment be furnished to those excluded from the appropriation. If we do not the fundamental right to labour the earth returns to the unemployed."

Now, I quite well understand the limited abilities of one such as yourself having been deprived of the talent of actually comprehending the written word, and being devoid of any form of conscience as to the misery of others, however, you once again have failed to provide any proof for your depravity, just more *********.

But then, what can one expect from one who lacks even the basic comprehension of what "Marxism" is, or even its lack of presence in the modern world. Why, to this person with such a limted knowledge of the subject, Christ Himself was one of those dreaded "Marxists". As to the "Marxist" Jefferson, and his ideas of education:

http://www.libertarianism.org/publi...ions/thomas-jefferson-public-education-part-1

“A Bill for the More General Diffusion of Knowledge.” In Notes on the State of Virginia (written in 1781), Jefferson summarized his educational plan as follows:

"This bill proposes to lay off every county into small districts of five or six miles square, called hundreds, and in each of them to establish a school for teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic. The tutor to be supported by the hundred, and every person in it entitled to send their children three years gratis, and as much longer as they please, paying for it. These schools to be under a visitor [i.e., superintendent], who is annually to choose the boy of best genius in the school, of those whose parents are too poor to give them further education, and to send him forward to one of the grammar schools [high schools, in effect] of which twenty are proposed to be erected in different parts of [Virginia], for teaching Greek, Latin, geography, and the higher branches of numerical arithmetic. Of the boys thus sent in any one year, trial is to be made at the grammar schools one or two years, and the best genius of the whole selected, and continued six years, and the residue dismissed. By this means twenty of the best geniuses will be raked from the rubbish annually, and be instructed, at the public expence, so far as the grammar schools go."

The next stage of this filtering process, Jefferson goes on to explain, occurs when half the students supported at public expense in grammar schools are dismissed after six years, perhaps to become teachers themselves. The remaining students then receive scholarships to study for three years at the College of William and Mary. (For various reasons, Jefferson later became disillusioned with his alma mater and substituted the University of Virginia, which he founded in 1819,
instead.)

Now, that was on the State level. The "Marxist" Jefferson, as President, along with the "Marxist" Congress, also signed into law this little tidbit which placed the Federal Government in the midst of education supported by the Fed:

http://www.britannica.com/topic/Northwest-Ordinances

"The minimum land sale was set at one square mile (640 acres), and the minimum price per acre was $1. (Congress hoped to refill the treasury by land sales in this region, but the requirement of $640 in cash eliminated many potential buyers.) One section in each township was to be set aside for a school. These procedures formed the basis of American public land policy until the Homestead Act of 1862."

You poor old marxist...as I said, you are so far left that you can't even conceive of the principles upon which this nation was founded.... Again...this was offered up as a worst case scenario for what could happen if we had an out of control congress...although they never dreamed that things would ever get that bad...what you believe to be good government was so far away from what the founders instituted that the comparison is not possible...and you think you are a constitutionalist....scratch the things listed below...and a host of others and then tell me how much you would like to live under a true constitutional society....or don't bother at all because like I said, you are so far left, that you can't conceive of being free.

"If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion in to their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every State, county, and parish and pay them out of the public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision of the poor . . . Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited government established by the people of America."

 
You poor old marxist...as I said, you are so far left that you can't even conceive of the principles upon which this nation was founded.... Again...this was offered up as a worst case scenario for what could happen if we had an out of control congress...although they never dreamed that things would ever get that bad...what you believe to be good government was so far away from what the founders instituted that the comparison is not possible...and you think you are a constitutionalist....scratch the things listed below...and a host of others and then tell me how much you would like to live under a true constitutional society....or don't bother at all because like I said, you are so far left, that you can't conceive of being free.

"If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion in to their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every State, county, and parish and pay them out of the public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision of the poor . . . Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited government established by the people of America."


In other words, you cannot find anything to prove me wrong, just the usual *********. Tell me a time when the educational system was NOT supported by government both of the State, and the Federal? You can't, so you rely on the same gobblygook that makes you sound like a senile old man.

Unfortunately for you, there were others who did not support your idiocy. People such as the "Marxist" Hamilton, and the "Marxist" Jefferson"

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_1s21.html

"The only qualification of the generallity of the Phrase in question, which seems to be admissible, is this–That the object to which an appropriation of money is to be made be General and not local; its operation extending in fact, or by possibility, throughout the Union, and not being confined to a particular spot.

No objection ought to arise to this construction from a supposition that it would imply a power to do whatever else should appear to Congress conducive to the General Welfare. A power to appropriate money with this latitude which is granted too in express terms would not carry a power to do any other thing, not authorised in the constitution, either expressly or by fair implication."

Then too, you have yet to show where the actions of the "Marxist" Franklin, the "Marxist" Christ, the "Marxist" Congress of the time, violated the Constitution.
 
Who needs an article?....use your brain...you claim that 1000 to 5000 species are going extinct every year....that is what a mass extinction is...you can't name any that have gone extinct in the past year, or the year before that...or the year before that....and yet you believe a mass extinction is happening....if the 1000 to 5000 species that went extinct last year...and the year before...and the year before can't be named, they must be undiscovered....so your claim is that while a mass extinction is happening, no one can name the species because they appear to be undiscovered...

The proof that there is no mass extinction going on is your inability to name even one species that went extinct last year, or the year before, or the year before and so on while the very definition of a mass extinction is 1000 to 5000 species or more going extinct every year...


No senile old fool, I posted an article that stated that claim, and you posted an article that said the same thing. And you, in your state of continuous dementia, have yet to prove any of it to be in error. And considering how sadly you have wrongly defended your dementia, or one could call it a world of fantasy with fairies, and goblins, you have yet to prove this comment of yours to be anything other then pure *********:

"all of the species going extinct are undiscovered"
 
No senile old fool, I posted an article that stated that claim, and you posted an article that said the same thing. And you, in your state of continuous dementia, have yet to prove any of it to be in error. And considering how sadly you have wrongly defended your dementia, or one could call it a world of fantasy with fairies, and goblins, you have yet to prove this comment of yours to be anything other then pure *********:

"all of the species going extinct are undiscovered"
Hey, I realize that he can drive you to distraction, but name calling doesn't help your argument. Yes, he was insulting first, but name calling? Come on now...
 
No senile old fool, I posted an article that stated that claim, and you posted an article that said the same thing. And you, in your state of continuous dementia, have yet to prove any of it to be in error. And considering how sadly you have wrongly defended your dementia, or one could call it a world of fantasy with fairies, and goblins, you have yet to prove this comment of yours to be anything other then pure *********:

"all of the species going extinct are undiscovered"

So you claim we are in the midst of a mass extinction..that means 1000 to 5000 species per year are going extinct...name 5 that went extinct last year...what's that?...you can't...so you still believe that 1000 to 5000 went extinct...or you don't believe there is a mass extinction going on and are just talking out your ass...or the species that went extinct are undiscovered...which is it?
 
So you claim we are in the midst of a mass extinction..that means 1000 to 5000 species per year are going extinct...name 5 that went extinct last year...what's that?...you can't...so you still believe that 1000 to 5000 went extinct...or you don't believe there is a mass extinction going on and are just talking out your ass...or the species that went extinct are undiscovered...which is it?


Again the fool pokes his pointy little head out of his ass to make more false comments.

I asked you to post where I said that there was mass extinction occurring. You can't, so you lie.

The comment about the species that went extinct are undiscovered is one YOU made fool.
 
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Again the fool pokes his pointy little head out of his ass to make more false comments.

I asked you to post where I said that there was mass extinction occurring. You can't, so you lie.

Of course you said it...in post 117 on this thread you said:

old trapper said:
Unlike past mass extinctions, caused by events like asteroid strikes, volcanic eruptions, and natural climate shifts, the current crisis is almost entirely caused by us — humans.

Does that, or does it not infer that the present mass extinction is unlike past mass extinctions? It is a clear claim that there exists a present mass extinction and it is unlike past events...sorry you can't keep up with what you say...typical of lefties...

The comment about the species that went extinct are undiscovered is one YOU made fool.

Since you clearly stated that we are in a mass extinction event that unlike past events is our fault...but can't seem to name any of the thousands of species going extinct every year which is by definition what a mass extinction event is, it stands to reason that you must be talking about species that are unknown to us.
 
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