Less reasons to watch ABC all the time

[Dr.Who]

I have always hated that show "The View" ever since first seeing it. At first I thought Barbara Walters had a good idea but it just turned out to be another version of Bill Maher type bias masquerading as entertainment.

OK, so that didn't stop me from watching Lost or my wife from watching Bachelor.

I always hoped America's Funniest Home Videos would be good but the clips were just never quite funny enough and where did they dig up the hosts?

Desperate Housewives and Grays Anatomy had a few good episodes but quickly deteriorated into the mindless dribble of night-time soaps. I suspect the only reason people watch is because they keep expecting that if it was good once it could be good again.

Now they have a line up filled with so many bad shows it is a wonder anyone bothers to tune in for anything at all"

Body of Proof
Boston Med
Brothers and Sisters
Detroit 1-8-7
Expedition Impossible
The Gates
Happy Endings
My Generation
Rookie Blue
Secret Millionaire
and of course the third rehashing of V, to name just a few of the horrible shows that they think are good enough to showcase on their website.

They should get a tiny amount of credit for reworking Rosanne Barrs show into The Middle. Turning it from trailer trash acting badly into middle class acting badly.

Modern Family did a great job casting that woman with the Latino accent but Julie Bowen is in her worst role yet somehow failing to pull it off and the gay couple just seems to be thrown in for political reasons adding nothing to the show if not actually detracting from it greatly.

Mr.Sunshine could have been good except that somehow Matthew Perry who has been good in several other things completely fails to deliver the goods in this show which is built completely around him.

No Ordinary Family could have been a great family show but the language makes it completely inappropriate for any one younger than a teen. A shame my kids are too young to enjoy the superhero genre here as it is not facing any competition on any other network and could have done well.

In short the best show they have is Better with You, and I am just not sure that could be enough to save the network from their own self-inflicted decline which will be inevitable as they attempt to perennially push the line of good taste by planning to introduce two new shows in the near future with titles that feature the B word in reference to women, they substitute random characters like &^%* in the title of another show as if we all don't know what they mean, and they join all the other networks in using words like ass which means an animal like a donkey in a completely different way and somehow the FCC looks other other way.

If they don't have the creativity to create any shows that are genuinely good on their own merit what makes them think that adding a few swear words, gratuitous sex and violence is going to make them any better. The short term increase in viewership among the more infantile among us will help but in the long run it can't keep a network afloat. the only luck they have going their way is the other networks are not that much better. Now, if someone comes along and creates a good show that is not just a re-writing of canned scripts done a zillion times they will find themselves scrambling to create anything at all and they won't have the infrastructure to do it.

In conclusion, I am so turned off by ABC that even if they started making better programming I just might be too skeptical to even try it.

 

[dahermit]

The average person(100 I.Q.), is a dullard. The programming is geared to largest part of the population (dullards). Therefore, "good programming", would not get the ratings to enable it to become the standard on any network. In recent history, an example of how dullards result in popularity of a show that went many seasons despite being tediously slow (soap opera), made-up as they went, ridiculous concepts, incoherent and non-believable plots, villains who were really heroes, and threats, etc., had very high ratings. That show was "Lost". It is incredible that a person who admits to watching that abomination would have the balls to suggest that there is poor programming on TV.

 

[Apathy]

I watch the BBC more than anything the American audience is just to simple to be able to appreciate shows of actual worth so they put on Garbage.

Right now for America the Event is good and Persons Unknowns if they decide to run a second season.

The American rehash of being human is sub par but it is far better than anything else on American tv...

 

[Dr.Who]

The average person(100 I.Q.), is a dullard. The programming is geared to largest part of the population (dullards). Therefore, "good programming", would not get the ratings to enable it to become the standard on any network. In recent history, an example of how dullards result in popularity of a show that went many seasons despite being tediously slow (soap opera), made-up as they went, ridiculous concepts, incoherent and non-believable plots, villains who were really heroes, and threats, etc., had very high ratings. That show was "Lost". It is incredible that a person who admits to watching that abomination would have the balls to suggest that there is poor programming on TV.

Yea, I watched it and I admit I was tricked. It promised to have a meaningful ending and all the allusions to famous historical or philosophical persons made one think that the ending would be fitting. Instead it was a soap dressed up like a show with with meaning and always the teaser..

 

[Gipper]

The average person(100 I.Q.), is a dullard. The programming is geared to largest part of the population (dullards). Therefore, "good programming", would not get the ratings to enable it to become the standard on any network. In recent history, an example of how dullards result in popularity of a show that went many seasons despite being tediously slow (soap opera), made-up as they went, ridiculous concepts, incoherent and non-believable plots, villains who were really heroes, and threats, etc., had very high ratings. That show was "Lost". It is incredible that a person who admits to watching that abomination would have the balls to suggest that there is poor programming on TV.

Actually the dullards are the DF liberals who control Hollywood. They continually put out trash thinking that is what Americans want. Yet, when the put out good wholesome movies and TV programs, ticket sales and viewer ship go through the roof.

We all know Liberals think Americans are a bunch of dummies for not buying into socialism. BO expressed as much during the campaign. Of course, Hollywood puts out garbage because they think Americans are dip****s.

 

[Apathy]

Actually the dullards are the DF liberals who control Hollywood. They continually put out trash thinking that is what Americans want. Yet, when the put out good wholesome movies and TV programs, ticket sales and viewer ship go through the roof.

We all know Liberals think Americans are a bunch of dummies for not buying into socialism. BO expressed as much during the campaign. Of course, Hollywood puts out garbage because they think Americans are dip****s.

Only you could make a thread about TV into an attack on liberals.

 

[dahermit]

Only you could make a thread about TV into an attack on liberals.

He turns the subject of all threads (see electric cars, Volt, Leaf), into attacks on liberals. That is his obsession. Do not expect logic, rationality, or reason from a mentally ill person.

 

[Gipper]

He turns the subject of all threads (see electric cars, Volt, Leaf), into attacks on liberals. That is his obsession. Do not expect logic, rationality, or reason from a mentally ill person.

Well I will admit I do politicizing a lot of things, but in this case, I was most logical.

DF libs control Hollywood, DF libs hate America and Americans, and they think Americans are all a bunch of dumb sh*ts. So consequently they put out DF movies thinking that appeals to Americans.

Its really quite logical.

When one knows the mind of DF elitist libs like I do, it just comes naturally.

 

[Dr.Who]

Only you could make a thread about TV into an attack on liberals.

TV entertainment is run almost entirely by liberals and they do try to shape America rather than just produce entertainment so his comment is not out of line.

It is also true that they often put on programming that is not as profitable as other programming in order to advance an agenda.

 

[Gipper]

TV entertainment is run almost entirely by liberals and they do try to shape America rather than just produce entertainment so his comment is not out of line.

It is also true that they often put on programming that is not as profitable as other programming in order to advance an agenda.

Well said and I could not agree more.

The problem is many Americans are not aware of what you say. Or, they will completely disagree out of ignorance. They do not know Hollywood is completely infected with the dread disease known as Liberalism. That, liberalism overflows into nearly everything Hollywood produces.

 

[Dr.Who]

Well said and I could not agree more.

The problem is many Americans are not aware of what you say. Or, they will completely disagree out of ignorance. They do not know Hollywood is completely infected with the dread disease known as Liberalism. That, liberalism overflows into nearly everything Hollywood produces.

I agree and will also disagree - on a technicality.

Yes, Americans are unaware of the bias in entertainment though many are aware of the bias in news media.

But we must make the distinction between Hollywood and television, they overlap but are not the same.


So, does liberalism overflow into everything [television] produces? I put up a pretty complete list from CBS's lineup. Can anyone name one show that is not liberally speckled with a liberal agenda while simultaneously lacking any conservative views?

Looking up a list of what some think to be conservative shows I found -

24 - I'll give you that one
The Hills - I have never seen the show but the logic I hear for why it is conservative is that one character supported McCain and there are no gays on the show.
Two and a half men - get real.

 

[PLC1]

TV programming is done by "liberals"?

Is it liberals who are into marketing a product for maximum profitability? That is what TV programming is all about. If few watch a program, then it won't get sponsors, and won't stay on the air. If it is popular, then it does get sponsors and does stay on the air. It's a matter of smart marketing, not "liberalism." If programming is aimed at dullards, does that reflect on the programmers, or on the viewers?

There is indeed a lot of trash on TV, no question. There are some pretty good programs, too. Why not watch those?

Some of my favorites:

Jeopardy
Who wants to be a millionaire?
The Today Show
The Tonight Show
Criminal minds
The Mentalist
NOVA

There really are some programs worth the time, but I didn't see any of them in Dr. Who's list above.

 

[Gipper]

TV programming is done by "liberals"?

Is it liberals who are into marketing a product for maximum profitability? That is what TV programming is all about. If few watch a program, then it won't get sponsors, and won't stay on the air. If it is popular, then it does get sponsors and does stay on the air. It's a matter of smart marketing, not "liberalism." If programming is aimed at dullards, does that reflect on the programmers, or on the viewers?

There is indeed a lot of trash on TV, no question. There are some pretty good programs, too. Why not watch those?

Some of my favorites:

Jeopardy
Who wants to be a millionaire?
The Today Show
The Tonight Show
Criminal minds
The Mentalist
NOVA

There really are some programs worth the time, but I didn't see any of them in Dr. Who's list above.

And I suppose you think The Today Show is without liberal bias.

 

[Dr.Who]

And I suppose you think The Today Show is without liberal bias.

I don't think he was saying that list consisted of right wing shows it was simply a list of shows he likes.


But he does not see a liberal bias in tv because he thinks liberals would not have a profit motive and he does not think that networks sacrifice their profit motive to advance their agenda.

I think that liberals do have a profit motive but they are willing to sacrifice it, to a degree, to advance their agenda. I think it is human nature and common sense to do the things one needs to do to stay in business and liberals as well as conservatives have that much common sense.

TV execs do sacrifice money to advance a liberal agenda but not so much that they go out of business. Businesses that fail cannot advance any agenda at all. I have no doubt there are a few conservative execs, shows, and actors - but few.

 

[dahermit]

I think that liberals do have a profit motive but they are willing to sacrifice it, to a degree, to advance their agenda. I think it is human nature and common sense to do the things one needs to do to stay in business and liberals as well as conservatives have that much common sense.

TV execs do sacrifice money to advance a liberal agenda but not so much that they go out of business. Businesses that fail cannot advance any agenda at all. I have no doubt there are a few conservative execs, shows, and actors - but few.

What "Liberal agenda", was the motivation for "General Hospital", "The Young and the Restless", "Lost", "Two and a Half Men", "The Bachelor", "Everyone Loves Raymond", "Survivor", et. AL?