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Germany's rising tide of populism

Discussion in 'European Politics' started by The Scotsman, Jan 31, 2017.

  1. The Scotsman

    The Scotsman Well-Known Member

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    Though this may be of interest?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38776251


    These sentiments are being expressed in many European countries at the moment but thankfully by only a minority. Anyway not pleasant reading.
     
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    I guess we will see soon enough the level of popular support.
    Wonder if there are more folks living outside metro areas than in. No EC there (unless I'm mistaken) so it's just simple numbers.
     
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    AFAIK, this is true.
     
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    Thinking about the UK it was the non-metro areas that voted for and were successful in the Brexit referendum. According to all the polling data Brexit was not supposed to happen.
    Polling data in the US suggested that Trump would not be successful in his bid for the Whitehouse. He was.
    Polling data suggests that the rise of rightwing European sentiments will not oust the centerist political establishment.......
     
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    Then populism is going to roll.
    Bad idea to wake the sleeping bear. Ignoring the citizens has consequenches eventually.
     
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    Very true.

    In my own country Austria, the two major parties are in administration since 1945. They are exhausted, corrupt, struggling with themselves, unable to cope with the problems after 2008.

    Election after election, they loose voters and a populistic party is growing year after year. Even after a major scandal where the populistic party nearly drove a whole state into bankruptcy (they won the election in this state), more and more people see them as the lesser evil.
     
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    Absolutely right mate!
    That's the issue the bozos in the European Parliament can’t seem to get their collective heads around. Like Nero they’re losing touch with reality. Someone better wake up and smell the dog shit.
     
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    They are bought same as BO.
     
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    Walter In France it looks like the far right candidate will not win.
     
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    France is very different to the German speaking countries, they have a long tradition of left wing parties - but I still don't think it is a safe bet.
     
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    What were the problems of 2008?
     
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    Economic I inagine
     
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    Yes. Europe was hit more than the USA because Europes politicians tried to rescue banks and this burned massive amounts of money.
     
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    As did we.
    As they say, if the US catches a cold (economically speaking) Euro gets pnenmonia.
     
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    So a few months on from the BBC article suggesting a rise in German (and to some degree European nationalism) the support for the German AfD is now falling away down from 15% to 10% and dropping. SInce the US election, the same situation is happening in France with the support of Le Pen declining as well as in Holland with Geert Wilder propsects now looking bleak, Austria's Norbert Hofer finally lost by over 350,000 votes and in the UK Nigel Farages' UKIP is now totally unelectable, Finland and other countries nationalists likewise are losing popular support.
    Was the catalyst for this the election of Trump? Has the trend in popularist nationalism been pulled up short as a result of the seemingly incompetent management and disfunctional state of US politics?
     
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