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  1. pocketfullofshells

    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    Humans did not get better...If you follow the OT your pretty much a bloody thirsty killer...and it has nothing to do if people got better or not...Unless by better you mean stopped listening to this book and this God.....
     
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    It is a matter of opinion whether humans are better. But I think there is evidence that we show more compassion than in the past. There is less killing and injuring of others, more tolerance of differences. Whether tis is due to stop listening to this book and the God is debatable.
     
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    and we are also less and less Religious then in the past, especially in the EU..odd. Religion has been used for so many wars as both the reason, and the Fuel when it was not the main reason.
     
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    It is true we are less religious in the EU and Australi. But we still go to bloodthirsty wars. If we are less religious what is the cause for EU and Australia to do so?
     
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    never said it stops all wars...But Religion has for thousands of years been a big reason for war, and the idea that your god will guide you to victory and the others are evil with a demon god...helps make the wars even more bloody. For example in the EU...when was the last big war in the EU...Bosnia...over Christians killing Muslims and vice versa. Australia pretty much just sits back and only gets in when the UK does and often in limited Fashion...due to the fact its near nothing of power. If you where to make it half and half of 2 Religions I am sure this would change things...no matter what 2 it was.
     
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    there have been wars where religion was the main driving force. I am not sure this applies to modern wars. It is more like you think your way of life is superior eg democracy and capitalism and you want to impose it on others.
    I agree that Our Prime Minister is so keen on starting the Iraq war again. He has planes in Dubai for weeks but no one has ask him to join yet. We in Australia do follow great powers blindly, now more likely the USA than UK., Conservative leaders like it because it wins elections.
     
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    You are one sick f*ck Aus ....

    Your ideology is the very reason we are all in this situation to begin with!

    You claim to be an "educated man" with all your "degrees" ....

    Can you give one example in history when your sick socialist ideology has prevailed?

    Of course you can't but that does not stop you from spewing your sick ideology does it?

    Conservatism ... Capitalism is what made America the Super Power of the world that has provided more human rights and freedom across the globe than in any other point in the history of this planet!

    Keep spouting your sick ideology and keep expecting the same result!

    There is always a new face to blame your sick shit on ....

    Liberalism is an unmedicated DISEASE!
     
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    Even Iraq war ( the GW One) for the life of me I have no idea what it was about...Oil, Cotracts, ignorance, Lies, His Dad. Im fairly sure I recall him talking about How God told him to do this or some bullshit...and some in the UK press have shown reports from some middle east leaders saying the same thing. And of course as soon as we took out the Main forcs, it was a war based on what Religion you where. SHia sunni kurd Christian
     
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    here is a great example of Socialism working...the United States for the last 100 years, and lone superpower now in the world...
     
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    Texas-tea. It depends of what you mean by Socialists. If you mean Communist, The Russian Revolution of 1917, The Foundation of the Chinese Peoples Republic in 1949 , The Vietnam War,or even WW2 which most historians ow think was run by Russia. It was the only country to expand its empire after. While there have been changes since there are numerous Communist states still operating today.
    Of course if you regard Socialism as any ideology that is not Republican. There are numerous examples of Democrat governments in the USA , The Welfare state and Progressive Taxation.
    In Europe and Australia we have had governments by people who call themselves Socialist or Labor.
     
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    pocketfullof shells, I was opposed to the Iraq war. Our Prime Minister at the time, Howard claim he join in because he thought Iraq had weapons on masses destruction. He had since admitted he was wrong but still justify Australia involvement in helping the USA which we might need its help one day.
     
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    I understand what Howard would go with the US, even if he thought it was wrong..for the reason you stated...best to keep the biggest Military on your good side for later. What was wrong was our President going to war and lieing (or just making sure to never look to hard for evidence against his view) His spech about Tubes and Yellowcake...Both things where known to be false when he said them..I was yelling at the tv as I knew this.
     
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    Pocketfull of shells. Yes Australian leaders have always supported the biggest military power whether it be UK or USA. I am not sure it can do this in the future with China becoming the biggest power in the Pacific. In any case would the USA support us in a conflict with China.
     
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    Pre BO the answer would be yes. Now who knows ?
     
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    Yes they would support them against China, its why Obama tried to piviot more to Pascific security a while back. Though the odds of China going after the Australia are slim for a few reasons. Its a US ally, its backed by the UK of course, doubling the US backing, And Chinas lack of will to do so in the first place. It could try for Taiwan, but most of CHina's Military power is for protecting its own , not something that can go off trying to invade someone as large as Australia. Also its going to be dealing with heavy internal issues in the coming decades.

    And dogtown is of course wrong, and he knows it. Oddly its been the Republican party holding back against helping anyone the last 6 years...not Obama.
     
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