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FDR - Franklin D. Roosevelt

Discussion in 'Historical Events & Figures' started by Archangelwolf, Dec 22, 2006.

  1. palerider

    palerider Well-Known Member

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    May Day would be the appropriate day to honor FDR. The man was a socialist. He began the socialst movement in the US that led irrevocably to the generational dependence on government handouts that we see, and have seen destroy so many lives since it began.

    The priciples of individual liberty and limited government began their fall with FDR. He created cracks in those foundational pillars of that simply could not be repaired. He was the epitome of big government and the spring from which the mindset still exists today.

    In short, the man was a socialist/communist and this country will never be more than a faint ghost of what it could have been but for the destructive effect of his socialist policies. The welfare state that he created has eroded all but the last lingering shreds of the rugged individualism that this country was founded on and as a nation, we will always be less than we could have been because of it.
     
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    Archangelwolf, I wonder if it bothers you at all that it was not FDR's policies, but rather the mobilization of America for WWII, that pulled America out of the depression. The American people asked Hoover to help them and he didn't; they asked FDR to help them and he made a lot of noise to cover the fact that he wasn't really helping them a whole lot. Lucky for him that the Germans bailed him out of that one.
     
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    I'm not really sure the "New Deal" got the United States out of the depression. In reality, the massive spending from World War II pushed the nation out. However, I think the "New Deal" made a huge difference. Ultimately, the lasting legacy of FDR was the laws designed to protect banking and finance from corruption. At least one such law was eventually repealed, and it lead to the 2008 crash. :rolleyes:
     
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    Well half right Jason. FDR prolonged the depression.
     
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    FDR enacted laws which would have prevented the 2008 crash, had right wingers not repealed them. In fact, these right wingers even got Bill Clinton on their side. One such law prohibited bankers from investing in the stock market.
     
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    If Frank Raines had followed his own policy 2008 would not have happened.
     
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    Here's something funny. Frank Raines real name is Franklin Delano Raines. :LOL: Anyhow, I still thing the root of the problem was the repeal of New Deal prohibitions on certain types of banking.
     
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    Didn't know that about Raines, thanks.
    They did a good job selling Glass repeal but I just don't see it. It requires assumptions while guys ignoring law and policy is undeniablE fact.
     
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    I don't see anything wrong with using government cash for education. However, it often finances a lifestyle of "under the table" earning and less often, laziness. Government money should come with the condition that the user should try to improve himself.
     
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    I wonder what you think now after Obama's presidency, since you thought he would never get into office. I think FDR was a great president too. He came in during difficult times, and worked to fix the issues that the country was already in. I think that a lot of people don't give credit to the people that come in after we're already in a bad place, and attempt to make things better. Anyway, what are your thoughts on the current state of the country?
     
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    But things did not get better for FDR's efforts nor BOs. Mainly They Were NOT INTENDED to. But friends of both are far richer.
     
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