Crazy Train

[Pandora]

hahaha that is too funny!

but thankfully not true, we did notice!!!

 

[steveox]

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Its funny when Republicans talk about ..the Debt, Fiscal Responsibility...

Reagan..the Deficit is big enough to watch itself...(or close to that not sure wording100%)

Dick Cheny...Deficits don't matter...

Bush II...Lower taxes, spend more...and ummm the debt will just go away....ok never said it, but that was his policy

Obama...Jesus H christ how the hell did you screw this up so bad in 8 years...now we have to try to fix this econ.....Republican...you did not fix the econ in the snap of a finger...How dare you..also yes we have blocked just about evrything you have done to fix it....but its your fault we are where we put us...

 

[BigRob]

Its funny when Republicans talk about ..the Debt, Fiscal Responsibility...

Reagan..the Deficit is big enough to watch itself...(or close to that not sure wording100%)

Dick Cheny...Deficits don't matter...

Bush II...Lower taxes, spend more...and ummm the debt will just go away....ok never said it, but that was his policy

Obama...Jesus H christ how the hell did you screw this up so bad in 8 years...now we have to try to fix this econ.....Republican...you did not fix the econ in the snap of a finger...How dare you..also yes we have blocked just about evrything you have done to fix it....but its your fault we are where we put us...

You don't "fix" a debt crisis by spending trillions of additional dollars.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

You don't "fix" a debt crisis by spending trillions of additional dollars.

Sometimes you have to spend money to make money....Where would the Debt be today we say the Auto industry in the US went under? I would place my bets on a lot worse...we could have done no stim package...and just let it ride...but then we where loosing jobs...today we are actually getting small amounts back...Last month we gained in the private Sector...of course numbers went down because government was cutting 2 times as many...

sometimes you have to Leverage to get the econ going...you take a hit, but you gain long term...

Never do you take in less and spend more...and have that ever work....Unless your a republican and you just claim it works...

 

[Gipper]

Sometimes you have to spend money to make money....Where would the Debt be today we say the Auto industry in the US went under? I would place my bets on a lot worse...we could have done no stim package...and just let it ride...but then we where loosing jobs...today we are actually getting small amounts back...Last month we gained in the private Sector...of course numbers went down because government was cutting 2 times as many...

sometimes you have to Leverage to get the econ going...you take a hit, but you gain long term...

Never do you take in less and spend more...and have that ever work....Unless your a republican and you just claim it works...

Here in lies the problem. Pockets and many foolish liberals/Dems believe in Keynesian economics and history proves it never works. In fact, many argue it makes things much worse...(this makes sense, since nearly everything libs promote makes things worse).

After all this government spending, the economy is worse now then before. But, this is ignored by the left.

This from the hard left news outlet AP today...

Snapshot of economy about to get a lot bleaker

Aug 27, 6:19 AM (ET)

WASHINGTON (AP) - The government is about to confirm what many people have felt for some time: The economy barely has a pulse.

The Commerce Department on Friday will revise its estimate for economic growth in the April-to-June period and Wall Street economists forecast it will be cut almost in half, to a 1.4 percent annual rate from 2.4 percent.

That's a sharp slowdown from the first quarter, when the economy grew at a 3.7 percent annual rate, and economists say it's a taste of the weakness to come. The current quarter isn't expected to be much better, with many economists forecasting growth of only 1.7 percent.

Such slow growth won't feel much like an economic recovery and won't lead to much hiring. The unemployment rate, now at 9.5 percent, could even rise by the end of the year.

"The economy is going to limp along for the next few months," said Gus Faucher, an economist at Moody's Analytics. There's even a one in three chance it could slip back into recession, he said.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100827/D9HRP2DG1.html

Slip back into recession....DUH!!!! We never got out of recession and we are headed for depression...

 

[BigRob]

Sometimes you have to spend money to make money....Where would the Debt be today we say the Auto industry in the US went under? I would place my bets on a lot worse...we could have done no stim package...and just let it ride...but then we where loosing jobs...today we are actually getting small amounts back...Last month we gained in the private Sector...of course numbers went down because government was cutting 2 times as many...

sometimes you have to Leverage to get the econ going...you take a hit, but you gain long term...

Never do you take in less and spend more...and have that ever work....Unless your a republican and you just claim it works...

In your previous post you cited three Republicans who advocated spending and did not worry about the debt.

You then say that the system was broken, and Obama has to "spend money to make money."

If that is accurate, why are we even in this situation? Apparently Republicans have been spending money all along (according to you) and ignoring deficit problems, and you argue that is a problem. Then when Obama does it on a larger scale, you argue that is the solution....

 

[Gipper]

In your previous post you cited three Republicans who advocated spending and did not worry about the debt.

You then say that the system was broken, and Obama has to "spend money to make money."

If that is accurate, why are we even in this situation? Apparently Republicans have been spending money all along (according to you) and ignoring deficit problems, and you argue that is a problem. Then when Obama does it on a larger scale, you argue that is the solution....

Oooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh the hypocrisy...

Pockets makes no sense again...well nearly every post is nonsensical.

Down goes Pockets...down goes pockets...AGAIN.

He has been knocked out so many times its a wonder he can still think...well...I am trying to be polite.

 

[Gipper]

Funny...if it weren't so true. Libs are delusional...

 

[steveox]

 

[pocketfullofshells]

In your previous post you cited three Republicans who advocated spending and did not worry about the debt.

You then say that the system was broken, and Obama has to "spend money to make money."

If that is accurate, why are we even in this situation? Apparently Republicans have been spending money all along (according to you) and ignoring deficit problems, and you argue that is a problem. Then when Obama does it on a larger scale, you argue that is the solution....

Becuse what you spend on makes a difference..spending on tax cuts for the rich, and wars,...are not the same as spending on education, and energy, and things designed to invest in the US..

A company spending money on a new system that will long term make them more effecent...vs a company spending money on a big office party....one will help the budget of the company...one will hurt it....

 

[Gipper]

Becuse what you spend on makes a difference..spending on tax cuts for the rich, and wars,...are not the same as spending on education, and energy, and things designed to invest in the US..

A company spending money on a new system that will long term make them more effecent...vs a company spending money on a big office party....one will help the budget of the company...one will hurt it....

Garbage!!!

The Rs have spent just as much on those programs as the Dems. The spending by both parties is out of control. Pockets gets his talking points from MSLSD.

And government deficit spending is not investing. But, the useful idiots will buy anything the socialists (Dems/media) tell them.

 

[BigRob]

Becuse what you spend on makes a difference..spending on tax cuts for the rich, and wars,...are not the same as spending on education, and energy, and things designed to invest in the US..

According to Keynesian economics, there is no distinction between government spending for product X and government spending for product Y. Both are supposed to create "stimulus", and I think given the evidence lately, we can agree it has failed.

I don't quite see how you can argue legitimately that war spending has no effect on jobs, but spending on education does... that makes no sense.

A company spending money on a new system that will long term make them more effecent...vs a company spending money on a big office party....one will help the budget of the company...one will hurt it....

Your example backs up my point. It is irrelevant what the money is spent on, because that spending is supposed to create stimulus.

I ask you this, with all of the spending...where is the stimulus? If you can agree it has been a failure, then Keynesian economics seems to have been disproved, and we need to change courses... something we do not seem to be doing.

 

[PLC1]

Garbage!!!

The Rs have spent just as much on those programs as the Dems. The spending by both parties is out of control. Pockets gets his talking points from MSLSD.

And government deficit spending is not investing.

Up to this point, you have it right.

But, the useful idiots will buy anything the socialists (Dems/media) tell them.

But, if the R's are spending just as much as the D's, if spending by both parties is out of control (which it is), then why is it only the Dems who are "socialists" and telling the useful idiots.... what again? That the spending is all OK?

 

[Pandora]

then why is it only the Dems who are "socialists" and telling the useful idiots.... what again? That the spending is all OK?

Liberal democrats are fine with obama's spending, what they are angry about it he is not doing more left leaning things. The left is not angry at obama for his spending, they are angry that gitmo is still open, that we are not fully out of Iraq and Afghanistan and that don't ask don't tell has not been abolished and homosexual marriage isn't in all 57 states.

Republicans in general were spittin mad at Bush FOR his over spending. There are some republicans that just follow what ever the R party tells them to, but most were angry at him for his over spending.

So yeah, dems are usually the socialist leaners not the republicans

As for useful idiots, what is the meaning of that saying? Government having private citizens who praise their every move and even when things suck for the people the "useful idiots" keep preaching how well the government is doing.

Under President Bush the media made everything worse than it was. It was starting to go down hill but the media had us in free fall crash, the war was lost with no possible way to win, everything was doom and gloom and the worst its been since the great depression. It was starting to get bad but it wasn't even as bad as under jimmy carter.

so to some degree yeah the republicans defended President Bush and probably over compensated because of how bias the media and the left was. Had it been as bad as it is now there are some in the Republican party who would have been insisting everything was ok and even getting better, there will always be at least some "useful idiots" in any party.

But now, things are worse and getting worse, we are in much more debt but the media keeps telling us about recovery summer and the useful idiots are out in full force telling us we are racist if we dont agree obama is doing good exc.

Putting all party politics aside, I really wonder how you can honestly say you don't see how much more the media attacked President Bush for his spending, playing golf, vacations, the way he handled the war(s) exc and those same people give obama a pass on it.

Far more liberal and democrats give obama a pass on the same things as they attacked President Bush for. They are all useful idiots.

Sure there are some on both sides but there are far more on the left.