BBC Admits Own Liberal Bias

USMC the Almighty said:
Bingo. It's also ironic that this whole fairness doctrine comes up right after I just watched a show where CNN had 4 liberals debating the Iraq War. And by debating, of course, I mean proverbially slapping each others' asses on a job well done.

Like it or not, you've got to give it to Fox's opinion shows -- if they have more than 1 outside person, you are guaranteed that one is conservative and one is liberal. In fact, many of the regular Fox News analysts are very liberal.
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The problem with that is anyone who knows anything about the issues can see right through the bs coming from Fox News.

Fox News Liberal? I hardly think so.:D
 
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lipmonkey said:
The problem with that is anyone who knows anything about the issues can see right through the bs coming from Fox News.

Fox News Liberal? I hardly think so.:D
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CNN and the major networks are equally transparent. Forcing them to give equal time to opposing views which can't generate a profit, however will only cause them to drop all political programming and switch formats.

With the incredible number of sources available today in which one can get information, the idea of forcing media outlets to grant equal time to speech that people obviously dont' have an interest in hearing is silly at best, and a direct violation of the 1st amendment at worst.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Clearly telling an outlet what sort of programming they must provide via the law is abridging the freedom of the press.
 
I have no problem with Fox News being a voice for Conservatives.

I don't watch it for the simple fact they claim to be Fair and Balanced, which couldn't be further from the truth. It's a misleading statement.
 
I have yet to find a lefty lean to any news outlet that has been mentioned here. Maybe some more liberal than others, but none of the majors is a lefty news organization.
 
palerider said:
The reality is that the media is about making a profit and schemes like the fairness doctrine interfere with a media comany's ability to make a profit. Everyone has access to the airwaves, but people will only listen if you have something interesting to say. It is clear that liberals (in the US anyway) have very little that is interesting enough to support repeating talk shows as evidenced by the left's inability to get a national liberal talk show off the ground no matter how much money they throw at it.

To demand that media outlets put shows on in contrast to conservative shows even when the liberal shows will not earn their keep is nothing more and nothing less than socialism.
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Well Fox news, for example, has played opposing views; it is called CNN. And Rush played Randy Roads. Just because they played it on a different network and and let someone else pay for it...:)
 
DrWho said:
Well Fox news, for example, has played opposing views; it is called CNN. And Rush played Randy Roads. Just because they played it on a different network and and let someone else pay for it...:)
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Shoot, the Daily Show plays Fox clips all the time. I wouldn't call that airing divergent view points. I have to agree with that any kind of fairness regulation could only backfire, hurting Fox when it's a liberal government, and PBS when it's a conservative one. Besides, this whole liberal bais thing is a myth. The news always sounds liberal when its telling the truth.
 
rmbarron said:
Shoot, the Daily Show plays Fox clips all the time. I wouldn't call that airing divergent view points. I have to agree with that any kind of fairness regulation could only backfire, hurting Fox when it's a liberal government, and PBS when it's a conservative one. Besides, this whole liberal bais thing is a myth. The news always sounds liberal when its telling the truth.
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And when the people don't agree with the truth it is "market failure." It is easier to blame the audience than to think that people in the newsroom might be wrong.
 
DrWho said:
I call BS. Prove it.
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Maybe not quite all, but the point remains that at least nearly all major media outlets in America are controlled by an absurdly small number of enormous transnational corporations....

http://home.earthlink.net/~platter/media-ownership.html
http://www.thinkandask.com/news/mediagiants.html

This is not from in-depth study; both of these sites were found with a quick Google search so the info is not hard to find. BTW the 6 companies alluded to by Abraxis Axis are probably these: http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart.php?chart=main

While not controlling 100% of the media in America, they certainly dominate the industry and give the lie to the idea of a truly free press.
 
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mustardayonnaise said:
Maybe not quite all, but the point remains that at least nearly all major media outlets in America are controlled by an absurdly small number of enormous transnational corporations....

http://home.earthlink.net/~platter/media-ownership.html
http://www.thinkandask.com/news/mediagiants.html

This is not from in-depth study; both of these sites were found with a quick Google search so the info is not hard to find. BTW the 6 companies alluded to by Abraxis Axis are probably these: http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart.php?chart=main

While not controlling 100% of the media in America, they certainly dominate the industry and give the lie to the idea of a truly free press.
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On this one I do not call BS. Because you added the word 'major'. It may very well be true that all the major media outlets are owned by six corps.

But there are so many outlets for truth and news, including huge numbers of newspapers, magazines, radio stations, newsletters, journals, blogs, forums, word of mouth, etc. that while the major outlets can influence public opinion greatly the most they can do is temporarily slant the truth and will not be able to suppress it entirely. So no I think we do have a free press, if you include any source of information as 'press'. I do also think that the fairness doctrine is a small threat to that free press; a monster we dare not feed.

It is important that there be competition and even divisiveness among our sources of news. We must keep both CNN and FOX and we must watch them both with a critical eye.
 

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