Barack Obama tapped Trump’s phones

By tried you mean more money, What are you complaining about? The Republican plan is a repeal only in words, IMO they need to go much farther. No young people should pay more to support mine and your old asses. My family takes care of themselves, My daughter and her husband build docks and bulkheads for a living and pay for their own insurance. She met him while he was building my dock.When Kelly was diagnosed with Cancer, she was left with very few options.. My choice was MD ANDERSON because they are ranked one of the best. I wasn't going to let her go anywhere but the best, so shes at MD Anderson.. Thank God I can afford it..Now no matter what this congress comes up with it will be better then Obama care. The way I see it you should not be allowed to pay a penalty and stay uninsured until you get sick, and then run out and get covered. They are the ones that should pay more. Think about that, there are people out there who buy insurance with a pre-existing illness, we are asking the insurance companies to sell them a plan knowing they are loosing money. So those of us who pay out the ass for insurance already are ask to cover it.. That's nuts..The people who can't afford insurance at all, we have to do something those people. I have some ideas but the numbers don't look good.

You know NOTHING about healthcare, real health care, not "big money gets you the best care!" ACA is not perfect, but it is a lot better than what existed prior to it. . .and it is hugely better than what Ryan and Trump want to put in place. When you pay $14,000 a year for YOUR coverage, instead that the current $1,250. . .you may or may not pay for your daughter! And by then, she may not "qualify" for any healthcare, since she will have a pre-existing condition!

You are completely brainwashed! I understand that, as a Trump supporter, you may want to give him a chance to do something good. . .I wish he did also!

But face it, until now, he has done NOTHING positive for anyone, except for billionaires and some millionaires. He has destroyed the faith of many, even among his own supporters, and it is just the beginning! At least, be honest enough with yourself to differentiate between what is positive and negative, that would demonstrate some guts, some intelligence! As Trump himself said during his campaign (and this should have given everyone a hint!): "If I stood in the middle of the street with a gun and shot someone, my supporters would still support me!" SICK!
 
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Which is why we need real change. Single payer as with all socialized medicine dies not alter costs it just denies coverage to meet budget knowing that whining will drive taxes up. Fix the problem and that won't be easy or without pain. But it's the only option.

YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN! You have NEVER experience "single payer" healthcare, you are just spewing negative propaganda. And there are many ways to deal with "single payer: The Belgian way is to have the government through social insurance pay for the basic care of EVERYONE, and work with private industry (called Mutuelle in Belgium) to provide the "extras" (i.e., private rooms in hospital, increased reimbursement to specialists, etc. . .). NO ONE, not even a 93 year old man, is refused ANY care, unless there is a danger to his life greater than the benefit of a specific intervention (i.e., my 93 year old brother in law had a problem with oversized prostate that provoked regular difficulty with urination. The "easy" solution would be prostate surgery, but because it was feared that his heart would not support the anaesthesia, they treated him with a combination of medication and non-invasive surgery. He is today doing very well and has no more problems).

Sure, we pay more taxes. . .but our tax money doesn't go to "armements" that KILL others. . .it goes to care for the people in this country. . .and even those around the world, as our medical schools provide enough graduates that we can send doctors abroad to assist when needed!

Stop talking about what you do not know!
 
Which is why we need real change. Single payer as with all socialized medicine dies not alter costs it just denies coverage to meet budget knowing that whining will drive taxes up. Fix the problem and that won't be easy or without pain. But it's the only option.


Yes, we really need to give more money to the wealthy, and pay for it by cutting programs that help the poor. That is the "christian" way:

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/15/winners-losers-trump-budget/

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-28/trump-s-child-care-plan-for-the-rich

https://thehillnews.net/news/Donald-Trump-Admits-His-Health-Plan-Will-Hurt-His-Supporters/

You might try to educate your self :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: and read this:

https://www.publicintegrity.org/201...ofit-health-insurance-plans-be-real-reformers
 
You know NOTHING about healthcare, real health care, not "big money gets you the best care!" ACA is not perfect, but it is a lot better than what existed prior to it. . .and it is hugely better than what Ryan and Trump want to put in place. When you pay $14,000 a year for YOUR coverage, instead that the current $1,250. . .you may or may not pay for your daughter! And by then, she may not "qualify" for any healthcare, since she will have a pre-existing condition!

You are completely brainwashed! I understand that, as a Trump supporter, you may want to give him a chance to do something good. . .I wish he did also!

But face it, until now, he has done NOTHING positive for anyone, except for billionaires and some millionaires. He has destroyed the faith of many, even among his own supporters, and it is just the beginning! At least, be honest enough with yourself to differentiate between what is positive and negative, that would demonstrate some guts, some intelligence! As Trump himself said during his campaign (and this should have given everyone a hint!): "If I stood in the middle of the street with a gun and shot someone, my supporters would still support me!" SICK![/QUOTE
My daughter and son-in-laws policy was under the ACA, MD Anderson would not accept it. She could have found a place that would have. But that wasn't good enough. I don't understand the part where you say I may or may not pay for my daughters health care. She is 33 so she could not be added to my policy. Now my policy, which is close to 14,000.00 a year ,Md Anderson would accept, but that didn't help my daughter. Your the one who doesn't understand..
 

Great answer, Grumpy!

By the way. . .have you heard the news yet? THERE WAS NO WIRE tapping of Trump's phone, Trump's tower, or anything else by President Obama or anyone else related.

Or, are the FBI, the NSA and most of the GOP covering up for Obama even now?

Can you admit that your hero lied in this case at least?
 
Great answer, Grumpy!

By the way. . .have you heard the news yet? THERE WAS NO WIRE tapping of Trump's phone, Trump's tower, or anything else by President Obama or anyone else related.

Or, are the FBI, the NSA and most of the GOP covering up for Obama even now?

Can you admit that your hero lied in this case at least?
You need to read my post, I have never believed Obama wire taped Trump..Now working thru the Britts, I still believe that might be true.. We all know a few countries signed an agreement that we wouldn't do it.. BUT OBAMA DID, with Germany..
 
You need to read my post, I have never believed Obama wire taped Trump..Now working thru the Britts, I still believe that might be true.. We all know a few countries signed an agreement that we wouldn't do it.. BUT OBAMA DID, with Germany..

Not so fast! It was alleged (by Snowden) that Obama ADMINISTRATION did, and it almost created an international incident. However, it was NEVER proven, and AFTER INVESTIGATION, Germany concluded that there was no evidence of it!
Get your story straight!

"Germany investigated the claim of eavesdropping, and dropped the investigation in 2015 after saying it found no evidence that would stand up in court, The Guardian reports."

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/17/f...ancellor-angela-merkel-in-2010/#ixzz4btqjXcUn
 
You need to read my post, I have never believed Obama wire taped Trump..Now working thru the Britts, I still believe that might be true.. We all know a few countries signed an agreement that we wouldn't do it.. BUT OBAMA DID, with Germany..
NSA hears all. ALL. We are all tapped just a question of what they do with it.
 
after saying it found no evidence that would stand up in court
Kinda like the no fire no smoking gun on Trump and the Russians yet, as a matter of fact one of the intelligence agencies said not even a spark..
Not so fast! It was alleged (by Snowden) that Obama ADMINISTRATION did,
Kinda like The alleged connection between Trump and Russia, investigation still going on..
So, Meanwhile, Germany's Green and Left parties have rallied to bring Snowden to Berlin (from Moscow) to furnish evidence about NSA machinations. But on that Friday, Germany’s constitutional court ruled against them. The German government maintained that Snowden's presence in Germany could be detrimental to relationships with the U.S. The way I see it, it is highly unlikely Snowden told the truth about everything but this.. I'm sure Snowden would love to visit Germany..

What’s behind this sudden new friendliness? Possibly, it will require a new Snowden to find out.
 
President Trump faces his hardest truth: He was wrong

On the 60th day of his presidency came the hardest truth for Donald Trump.
He was wrong.

James B. Comey — the FBI director whom Trump celebrated on the campaign trail as a gutsy and honorable “Crooked Hillary” truth-teller — testified under oath Monday what many Americans had already assumed: Trump had falsely accused his predecessor of wiretapping his headquarters during last year’s campaign.

Trump did not merely allege that former president Barack Obama ordered surveillance on Trump Tower, of course. He asserted it as fact, and then reasserted it, and then insisted that forthcoming evidence would prove him right.

But in Monday’s remarkable, marathon hearing of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Comey said there was no such evidence. Trump’s claim, first made in a series of tweets on March 4 at a moment when associates said he was feeling under siege and stewing over the struggles of his young presidency, remains unfounded.

....but what's even more mindboggling is that he's pushed the Whitehouse spin machine into defending his absurd postion.
 
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Do you think Obama was listening to Merkel?
The NSA probably was... but...
Harald Range launched an official investigation in June, believing there was enough preliminary evidence to show unknown U.S. intelligence officers had tapped the phone, although there was not enough clarity on the issue to bring charges.

On Wednesday he said however, "the document presented in public as proof of an actual tapping of the mobile phone is not an authentic surveillance order by the NSA. It does not come from the NSA database.

"There is no proof at the moment which could lead to charges that Chancellor Merkel's phone connection data was collected or her calls tapped."
no proof....yet....
 
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