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Australian Liberal party voted new Prime Minister

Discussion in 'Australian Politics' started by Aus22, Sep 14, 2015.

  1. Aus22

    Aus22 Well-Known Member

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    P New Prime Minister.JPG Defence Minister.JPG warbi, Yes Turnbull has a small margin of 10. But Tony Abbott had only a lead of 1 vote but lasted six years. There is opposition from those who miss out of the cabinet including some conservatives. However he is leading in the polls now and I do not think will be replaced before the elections.
    Dogtower Yes it very interesting. Turnbull has been liken to Frank Underwood in House of cards. he does use a rowing machine but not s ruthless.
    He does used women . The Defence Minister is big and strong unlike her opponent who is drawn as a schoolboy. There are five women in cabinet.
     
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    Like Underwood ? Holy smokes, thats.spooky.
    Seems like he needs to get something popular done to hold public sentinent.
    Might be the right time to pursue aboriginal recognition. Doesn't really have much effect but if it's a popular item for citizens it could cast a favorable light.
     
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    Turnbull is popular in the polls. If an election was held now he would beat the Labor Opposition. However this could be a honeymoon period. It may not last to when the election is due in a year. He has the power to call an early election, Most of the media like him and similarity to Underwood is really only made by his opponents and is usually reserve to some of his Ministers.

    There will be a vote on Aboriginal recognition in 2017. It will be cheaper to have it at the elections in 2016 but I don't think t will happen. Why both parties support it, they are afraid it might be lost which will look very bad on race relations.
     
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    Honeymoon period certainly.
    Well if aboriginal is a shake subject there must be something else.
    He just needs to do some thing popular.
     
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    The real Problem is the same as the previous government. We have a deficit. Abbott try to cut spending but the Senate which he did not control stop many of thee measures. The only other alternative is to increase revue by increasing taxation. this is not popular either.
     
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    Or increase revenue by expanding the economy.
     
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    This is being tried here but it is very hard with an ageing population which will increase medical expenses. Turnbull has found an issue that is popular contesting domestic violence, It is very popular with woman but I doubt it is much the government can do in the short run.
     
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    The front man may have changed, but nothing worth a damn has changed here - same party policies and priorities. We don't really have much government debt, just 10% of GDP. The problem was, back in 2008 at the last crash, we should have let the banks fail instead of bailing them out - forcing the taxpayer to now pay for the incessant speculative gambling on derivatives that got the banks in trouble in the first place. Did they learn? No! It has increased exponentially since then as the graphs show. Now our total debt is around the A$3trillion mark and who's in charge? Mr "Goldman Sachs" Turnbull. It's actually quite clear who rules the country on all three sides of parliament... the un-elected German Queen of the British Empire!

    Now, dogtowner mentioned we should grow the economy. In recent times, our politicians have been saying they will do this (far, far too late!); the problem is the Way they plan to do this, which will Only benefit the private banks. The proposed methods all hinge around the very Fascist idea of using PPPs, whereby the banks & wealthy private individuals profit, whilst the taxpayer wears the risk. Nice one! Mr "Goldman Sachs" Turnbull will really swell the hip pockets of all his banking mates with that one! In fact, the city of Sydney is largely modeled on this already - unavoidable toll roads everywhere and using rail and airports gives 20%+ to the banks on every "user who pays". The "user pays" system must go! It has been shown we cannot grow an economy this way.

    So I believe dogtowner means we should grow our economy using The American System. Now this has not only succeeded without fail in America, but everywhere all over the world it was properly used for any descent period of time, including right here. At least twice in our short history, the last being the Curtain - Chiefly era of WW2, just before Menzies shut it all down and made sure it would never ever come back again (they took the Ben Chiefly government to court in London and won!). I believe we can bring it back, but it will take enormous political guts - even more than old Gough could muster, but there is hope now in England. Jeremy Corbyn is the new true Labour leader there and once he wins government, it will open up many opportunities that haven't been presented since the war. There is also hope with China's AIIB, if we only had a pro-China government here!
     
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