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Another Bad-News Day, For "conservatives"

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Mr. Shaman, Mar 25, 2009.

  1. Andy New Member

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    The problem there is, I don't think Shaman wants to think. Most liberals do not, since it will automatically challenge their views. I used to be one, and thinking through the topics is exactly why I became a conservative.

    That used to hold some importance to me. But when I started looking at some of the Nobel winners, they make a mockery of the Nobel Prize.

    For example Kofi Annan was given an award, but was involved with the Oil-For-Food scandal. In fact a key player who met with French companies, which lobbied him, and won the bid.

    Yasser Arafat, a well known terrorist, who openly stated on Arabic radio his intentions to wipe Israel off the planet, and slaughter every Jew in Palestine. But since he spoke of peace on the English radio, he was given an award.

    Rigoberta Menchú Tum, who wrote a book about her life in Guatemala, and was given an award. Then 10 years later, a massive investigation into the book, revealed entire sections were fabricated.

    And of course, are all time favorite... Jimmy Carter was given the Nobel prize, even though he successfully didn't defend a US ally in Iran, didn't stop an anti-US force from taking over, successfully didn't save US citizens at the embassy in Iran, successfully did give the anti-US forces bran new US military hardware in a failed rescue mission, successfully created an energy crisis, and successfully got double digit inflation and the highest unemployment rate in 30 years.

    And what did dear ol Jimmy do after this? He built houses for Habitat for Humanity. Great so all those thousands of other volunteers should get the Nobel too?

    Bottom line is this... just getting the Nobel Prize, does not automatically mean anything. Krugman might have gotten the prize, but so did a well known terrorist. I have already posted articles by economists on Krugman, and even they say he often is partisan in his thinking.
  2. Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Lemme guess.....it was the headaches, right?

    Ya' see.....the brain is (almost) like a muscle; if you only use it once-in-a-while, it will pain you, each time you do use it.

    I think you made the wise choice.

    Some "conservatives" make excellent door-stops.
  3. Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Better get your cryin'-towels out, for this one.....

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  4. Andy New Member

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    A picture of you in there would be far better.

    Nevertheless, your point is irrelevant. Obama expanded renditions, which means that terrorist who would be under the CIA, are not given to other countries which have no problem with any form of torture.

    So in the feel good theory they we are not doing it, we've doomed hundreds to be tortured elsewhere.

    So really you've accomplished nothing, but hey, you can feel good about that nothing you accomplished. Warm fuzzies for you Shaman. :D
  5. Mr. Shaman New Member

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    For what it's worth ('cause, you never DO!)....Show Me.

    :rolleyes:
  6. PLC1 Super Moderator

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    Yes, that's right. If, on the other hand, muscles are never, ever used, then they don't get sore either. Just ask this guy:

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    A lot of two legged people have the same lifestyle.
  7. Mr. Shaman New Member

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    'Bout time we finally get a "Bring 'Em ON!!!!"-moment!

    :cool:

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  9. Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Gee......what're the chances this'll hurt her credibility, in '12??

    :rolleyes:

    Maybe she'll recover............
  10. Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Way to GO, JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Say, Shaman, do you really think we'd be better off if everyone just became Democrats? Do you like the idea of a one party system?

    Remember, Mexico had a one party system for about 70 years.
  12. Mr. Shaman New Member

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    You make it sound like MY idea..........

    Stay The Course has been tried (again), and lost.....(again).
  13. PLC1 Super Moderator

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    I didn't say it was your idea. I asked if you thought it was a good idea.

    A one party system, all Democrats? :eek:
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    Even though it seems counter-intuitive, many studies down through the years, done in many countries has shown that the death penalty doesn't really provide any deterrent to crime. In fact it can cause an increase in the violence of crime because the criminal knows that they can only kill him once no matter what he does--he has nothing to lose.

    The other problem is that too many innocent people have been killed and there is no going back from an execution. The death sentence has been used disproportionately against minority groups, poor people, and the mentally ill.

    The death penalty is barbaric and unnecessary, if we stop putting people in prison for marijuana use (not selling, just use) we would have lots of free jail space to house the people who might otherwise be executed.
  15. Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Absolutely, not!

    Expecting some (sense of) maturity, from Congressional-Republicans, was (probably) one o' the Obama Admin's greatest-mistakes, presently.

    Republicans have (quite-obviously) delivered the one-Party-system.
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    ... you mean sense Republicans oppose the plan they are not "mature". What makes them mature? Rubber stamping the goals of the President?

    You just said wanted a one-party system, you just want it to have two groups that think alike.
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    Is that a yes or a no?
  18. Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Which part of Absolutely, not! don't you understand?

    Give it a full-analysis, but don't strain yourself.

    :rolleyes:
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    Poor "conservatives".

    :(

    It appears your-boys have dropped-to-their-knees....begging & slobbering for forgiveness....and, a History-rewrite.

    :rolleyes:

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