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5 reasons capitalism is better than socialism

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  1. Stalin Member

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    Wrong...again !!!!

    • "Mustering Most Memorable Quips" by Julia Solovyova, in The Moscow Times (28 October 1997) states: Russian historians have no record of the lines, "Death of one man is a tragedy. Death of a million is a statistic," commonly attributed by English-language dictionaries to Josef Stalin. Discussing the book by Konstantin Dushenko (Константин Душенко) Dictionary of Modern Quotations (Словарь современных цитат: 4300 ходячих цитат и выражений ХХ века, их источники, авторы, датировка).
    • Variants: One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is just a statistic.
      A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic
      When one dies, it is a tragedy. When a million die, it is a statistic.
      "When one man dies it is a tragedy, when thousands die it's statistics." This is the exact quote from the McCullough biography of Truman, books.google.de According the the citation in that book, McCullough got it from page 278 of the book "The Time of Stalin: Portrait of Tyranny", by Anton Antonov-Ovseyenko. McCullough quotes Stalin as having said this to Churchill at Teheran. "Churchill had been arguing that a premature opening of a second front in France would result in an unjustified loss of tens of thousands of Allied soldiers. Stalin responded that 'when one man dies it is a tragedy, when thousands die it's statistics'".
    • This quotation probably was originated from «Französischer Witz» by Kurt Tucholsky (1932): «Darauf sagt ein Diplomat vom Quai d’Orsay: «Der Krieg? Ich kann das nicht so schrecklich finden! Der Tod eines Menschen: das ist eine Katastrophe. Hunderttausend Tote: das ist eine Statistik!»» («At which a diplomat from France replies: «The war? I can't find it too terrible! The death of one man: that is a catastrophe. One hundred thousand deaths: that is a statistic!»»)
    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

    Oh dear ... Harry Truman - I suppose in your playbook, Truman is as bad as Stalin because he was a socialist.

    Comrade Stalin
  2. Stalin Member

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    I am not an Ur-fascist so I do not belong to the cult of the hero.

    As usual, you are wrong.

    "Misattributed

    The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.
    • "Mustering Most Memorable Quips" by Julia Solovyova, in The Moscow Times (28 October 1997) states: Russian historians have no record of the lines, "Death of one man is a tragedy. Death of a million is a statistic," commonly attributed by English-language dictionaries to Josef Stalin. Discussing the book by Konstantin Dushenko (Константин Душенко) Dictionary of Modern Quotations (Словарь современных цитат: 4300 ходячих цитат и выражений ХХ века, их источники, авторы, датировка).
    • Variants: One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is just a statistic.
      A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic
      When one dies, it is a tragedy. When a million die, it is a statistic.
      "When one man dies it is a tragedy, when thousands die it's statistics." This is the exact quote from the McCullough biography of Truman, books.google.de According the the citation in that book, McCullough got it from page 278 of the book "The Time of Stalin: Portrait of Tyranny", by Anton Antonov-Ovseyenko. McCullough quotes Stalin as having said this to Churchill at Teheran. "Churchill had been arguing that a premature opening of a second front in France would result in an unjustified loss of tens of thousands of Allied soldiers. Stalin responded that 'when one man dies it is a tragedy, when thousands die it's statistics'".
    • This quotation probably was originated from «Französischer Witz» by Kurt Tucholsky (1932): «Darauf sagt ein Diplomat vom Quai d’Orsay: «Der Krieg? Ich kann das nicht so schrecklich finden! Der Tod eines Menschen: das ist eine Katastrophe. Hunderttausend Tote: das ist eine Statistik!»» («At which a diplomat from France replies: «The war? I can't find it too terrible! The death of one man: that is a catastrophe. One hundred thousand deaths: that is a statistic!»»)
    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

    Comrade Stalin
  3. Gipper Well-Known Member

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    Well that does it!!! Uncle Joe was really a boy scout. Who knew???

    The Mass Murder from Gori has been so terribly misunderstood.....like a like a.....all those gulags, all those executions, the Ukrainian genocide, the enslavement of E. Europe....all those lies he told....his love of Hitler.....like a like a....its all lies.o_O

    But, let me try to educate you further....Truman was a progressive...which is just shy of socialist. He was however an American hero for dropping the A-bombs and ending the war with Imperial Japan. But he like Stalin's Stooge FDR, had an administration contaminated with commies spying for your idol and refused to do anything about it even after being informed.
  4. Gipper Well-Known Member

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    Come on now....you must know I am being factious.

    I am dealing with a harden commie here who is a true believer in Marxism. He thinks Stalin a wonderful hero and Reagan a murdering scumbag terrorist. I am trying to help him overcome his mental deficiencies, but it is tough going.
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    he also seems to believe that Uncle Joe didn't have a habit of cleansing history of inconvenient things.
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    I don't see this bunch in the White House as wanting to change human nature. They are very good a using human nature to divide and conquer. Rich and poor, black and white and so on. The truth is their ideology will actually destroy the middle class, just like Stalin did. The Rich and powerful will just take their wares somewhere else. What's left? The masses that will allow themselves to be ruled by a dictatorship.
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    Genseneca...I recieved that via e-mail..but thanks..
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    I read Animal Farm in 1965 and all the rest of Orwell's works including his diaries in the next few years.

    Conmrade Stalin
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    First of all, I do not believe in heroes.

    "...In every mythology the hero is an exceptional being, but in Ur-Fascist ideology heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death. It is not by chance that a motto of the Spanish Falangists was Viva la Muerte ("Long Live Death!"). In nonfascist societies, the lay public is told that death is unpleasant but must be faced with dignity; believers are told that it is the painful way to reach a supernatural happiness. By contrast, the Ur-Fascist hero craves heroic death, advertised as the best reward for a heroic life. The Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death..."

    http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html

    Second, Stalin was never convicted of terrorism and Reagan was.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair


    Comrade Stalin
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    so its a comprehension issue then. the book is a clever telling of how marxism has played out where tried.
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    In that time in the world what's the reasons to fall down of economy .Why the problems are now everywhere ?
    capitalism ... socialism............?
    isn't the same way!
    All they give a proper solution.....................?
  12. dogtowner Super Moderator

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    Problems are everywhere because the world economies are interconnected.
    Why ? Government over man ipulation of commerce. Also known as socialism.
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    But Capitolism is unfair,, Youre Laid off trying to find another job while collecting unemployment.
    Bankers=OFF WITH THEIR HEADS
    CEOs=OFF WITH THEIR HEADS
    Wall Street folks=OFF WITH THEIR HEADS

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